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22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  0, uid 02596616, party 31953664, nickname: Stolen_Thunder      , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 1908, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  1, uid 04036918, party 31953664, nickname: CaveScavenger       , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2914, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  2, uid 07781923, party 31953719, nickname: ArchRevolution      , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2751, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  3, uid 07734155, party 31953719, nickname: shadowwolf292       , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1988, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  4, uid 07748516, party 00000000, nickname: DieWolfen           , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3406, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  5, uid 04464337, party 00000000, nickname: Russell_Dyess       , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2618, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  6, uid 06122066, party 00000000, nickname: BeepBeepImaSheep    , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2106, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player  7, uid 07843305, party 00000000, nickname: bobster420420       , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3456, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 16, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Christopher         , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 3424, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 17, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Steven              , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 3424, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 18, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Connor              , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2893, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 19, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Joseph              , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2893, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 20, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Yannis              , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2157, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 21, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Sophia              , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2157, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 22, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Nicholas            , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 3118, ladder pos -1
22:27:30.109  CMBT   |     player 23, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Damon               , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 3118, ladder pos -1

 

2000 point rides fighting 3500 point rides. 50 percent more PS and 50 percent more firepower. Also the 1900 PS chord builds are fighting 3400 PS bots which have Epic Movement parts and snow plow defense

 

22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  0, uid 07561886, party 31953878, nickname: Mrpottysquats       , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2352, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  1, uid 07562217, party 31953878, nickname: thekiller4536       , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2110, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  2, uid 03391035, party 00000000, nickname: PE19478             , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2987, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  3, uid 07838768, party 00000000, nickname: crusader669         , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3185, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  4, uid 07843668, party 00000000, nickname: PIPER318            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2654, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  5, uid 07832974, party 00000000, nickname: Jadorra             , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3578, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  6, uid 06122066, party 00000000, nickname: BeepBeepImaSheep    , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2277, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  7, uid 06914312, party 00000000, nickname: SgtMjrSlaughter     , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2024, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  8, uid 07860909, party 00000000, nickname: t4nker_fr           , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2807, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player  9, uid 07375261, party 00000000, nickname: joeriyo             , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2227, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player 10, uid 07847497, party 00000000, nickname: bearz19             , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2421, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player 11, uid 06934707, party 00000000, nickname: gemmoros            , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2743, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player 16, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Nikki               , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2238, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player 17, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: David               , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2238, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player 18, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Nicholas            , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2914, ladder pos -1
22:46:59.449  CMBT   |     player 19, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Emma                , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2914, ladder pos -1

One again 3500 PS car fighting people with 2000 PS cars. At low level this is a huge difference. You can get legendary weapons in 3500 PS builds. 

 

22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  0, uid 07861951, party 31953650, nickname: ____Keo             , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1728, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  1, uid 07838714, party 31953650, nickname: Gotriey             , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1775, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  2, uid 07848650, party 31953650, nickname: ColtonDS            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1833, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  3, uid 07643025, party 00000000, nickname: kaeding98           , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2286, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  4, uid 02682061, party 00000000, nickname: Tr_cky              , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 1827, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  5, uid 07796878, party 00000000, nickname: DaniMendes          , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 1982, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  6, uid 06122066, party 00000000, nickname: BeepBeepImaSheep    , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2277, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  7, uid 03671854, party 00000000, nickname: zdude145            , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2281, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  8, uid 07774690, party 00000000, nickname: Grim_Wolfen         , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1705, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player  9, uid 07832891, party 00000000, nickname: Mkfokss             , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 1847, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player 16, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Paul                , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2244, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player 17, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Kenneth             , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2244, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player 18, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Sergei              , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2550, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player 19, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Alec                , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2550, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player 20, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Matthias            , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 1850, ladder pos -1
22:50:53.737  CMBT   |     player 21, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Samantha            , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 1850, ladder pos -1

Here is another match at the same time. Seems to be no problem getting together low PS people with closer PS together 

 

23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  0, uid 07858392, party 31954053, nickname: Default_Danny       , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2206, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  1, uid 07858651, party 31954053, nickname: BobduhBuilder       , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2125, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  2, uid 07858657, party 31954053, nickname: Dumb_Thicc          , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2029, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  3, uid 07843668, party 31954108, nickname: PIPER318            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2654, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  4, uid 07843684, party 31954108, nickname: Take_a_seat_        , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1979, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  5, uid 07857945, party 00000000, nickname: I_M_ON_SOMETHING    , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3188, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  6, uid 07778069, party 00000000, nickname: Wide_Flyer          , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2612, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  7, uid 07801066, party 00000000, nickname: John_Swift46171     , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1950, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  8, uid 06122066, party 00000000, nickname: BeepBeepImaSheep    , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2184, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player  9, uid 07335882, party 00000000, nickname: Frankenstein8926    , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1949, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player 10, uid 07822001, party 00000000, nickname: Slanes              , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2615, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player 16, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Paul                , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 3028, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player 17, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Sergei              , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 3028, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player 18, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Ethan               , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2430, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player 19, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Joseph              , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2430, ladder pos -1
23:10:52.845  CMBT   |     player 20, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Michael             , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2238, ladder pos -1

 

Note that the 3000 PS player is also causing 3000 PS bots. This is a problem because 3000 PS bots have snow plows and epic wheels. They have much more structure than the guy with the 2000 PS car.

 

 

I know someone is going to spout the typical boneheaded "This is working as designed". This is where the game's reputation for seal clubbing starts.  2000 PS build guy is being dumped into matches against cars with 50 percent more build.There is plenty of other players at the same PS level showing up in the logs. There is no reason for these +1500/-1500 matches for low PS builds. 

 

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still have not heard from anyone why getting 50 percent more PS is a smart idea. I have been actively telling people to quit these matches since Targem can't run a decent game. 

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I realize this is not your design. But you do realize this code in Matchmaker rewards people for crafting less not more.  I bought a TOW weapon from the market. If I add the cheapest cabin and the cheapest wheels i have a 1500 PS build. This gets me about 5000 reward per match. If I added a better cabin and better wheels I would get put in tougher matches and drop to 2000 reward per match. Every advanced part does more damage and higher scores in lower PS matches against weaker equipment I don't see how crafting is sustainable when the game rewards you more for crafting less.

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 Greetings,

  I'm still new here.  I have been in a few matches.  I was told by another member that, if there is not enough players to match PS.. Power Score, they , or the servers borrow from other players on line.  If they are Bigger PS, then it fits to make a match. 

  I am Not sure if this has been brought up, but.... IF I'm a player with " White" weapons only......I should play with "white" and below.  If I buy a "Blue" weapon, then I should only be in matches, that have only "blue" Weapons and below. 

  I should not have to battle, "Epic, Legendary", if I only have lets say "Purple" and lower. 

  Yes, that's correct, If I buy my first "Cricket" weapon, then at that point...  I should only fight "Epic and lower..... NOT HIGHER Weapons...  I Could be wrong....

 

  And.... if this has been addressed before, then I apologize.  It has been .... well sometimes impossible, when you have a 6k build, and you face 10k builds.... even on Patrol.....  Out Matched, and out gunned.

 

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29 minutes ago, __Cinna__ said:

 Greetings,

  I'm still new here.  I have been in a few matches.  I was told by another member that, if there is not enough players to match PS.. Power Score, they , or the servers borrow from other players on line.  If they are Bigger PS, then it fits to make a match. 

  I am Not sure if this has been brought up, but.... IF I'm a player with " White" weapons only......I should play with "white" and below.  If I buy a "Blue" weapon, then I should only be in matches, that have only "blue" Weapons and below. 

  I should not have to battle, "Epic, Legendary", if I only have lets say "Purple" and lower. 

  Yes, that's correct, If I buy my first "Cricket" weapon, then at that point...  I should only fight "Epic and lower..... NOT HIGHER Weapons...  I Could be wrong....

 

  And.... if this has been addressed before, then I apologize.  It has been .... well sometimes impossible, when you have a 6k build, and you face 10k builds.... even on Patrol.....  Out Matched, and out gunned.

 

Hummm...the game is not balanced on a weapon or any weapon's rarity.

The game is balance on speed, HP, fire power and equipment of a build, as well as how effective it is on it PS range.

Players in Patrol mode on meet bots.  There players can learn to deal with bots, and how bots behave.  Bot enemy do not use the same PS MM to human enemy.  Bots builds sometimes are quite silly.  Better you learn to look at a build and deal against it, not looking at PS of a build. Too may players whine about MM, simply because they are on a PS range that they can't handle.

Do not under underestimate the white chords.  They are very deadly in the right PS build on good hands.

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  Thank you.  I guess when I first had seen the game, I was excited about it.  After I learned a thing or two, I started my way up.  It seemed at the time, things were unbalanced.

  I didn't even learn there was a chat, until recently.  It was very, lets say hard, to get anything or advance at all.  I'm starting to learn more.  But for those players I see in the vast adventure land, and they

inquire on how to advance its tough to explain on something I'm still learning about.

  Thank you for the correction.  I stand corrected.  And I suppose you are correct.  If it were very simple, then I'm sure the word "boring" would be used and players would go elsewhere.  Yes there are a Vast number of different enemies out there.  And to try to find the right balance, for speed and gun them down... it's tough.

  Thank you for the sound advice......

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5 hours ago, __Cinna__ said:

  Thank you.  I guess when I first had seen the game, I was excited about it.  After I learned a thing or two, I started my way up.  It seemed at the time, things were unbalanced.

  I didn't even learn there was a chat, until recently.  It was very, lets say hard, to get anything or advance at all.  I'm starting to learn more.  But for those players I see in the vast adventure land, and they

inquire on how to advance its tough to explain on something I'm still learning about.

  Thank you for the correction.  I stand corrected.  And I suppose you are correct.  If it were very simple, then I'm sure the word "boring" would be used and players would go elsewhere.  Yes there are a Vast number of different enemies out there.  And to try to find the right balance, for speed and gun them down... it's tough.

  Thank you for the sound advice......

NP, if you need someone to group with and happen to see me in game. PM me.  I game everyday  but I don't have a fix time.   You should have a build to aim to do both hard raids for the weekly badges.  It will help you to advance a lot faster. good luck.

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On 6/11/2019 at 7:20 PM, ChopChopChop said:

 

The game is balance on speed, HP, fire power and equipment of a build, as well as how effective it is on it PS range.

 

Team up with others and shoot the weapons. That is the entire game. If you have a group of four organized people who target the other teams weapons the other team will get rekt every time. 

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I am playing at 1999 PS, using ONLY white parts.
Most of the time the enemy team is like 2500-3000 PS, and sometimes in my team are also 3500s joining...and bots.

I do not know why but is very annoying.
At 1999 with all white it all depends on skill and strategy, i win most matches, upped my kills/assists from 1.39 to 2.35 in a few days.
Most of the time we even beat the enemy even if our entire team is below 2k and enemies shave 2500s in theirs...

I am not exactly sure why at higher PS with blue to purple or higher guns i lose more often with the same people in my team.

It seems that the game is somewhat balanced at WHITE quality.
Once you have rockets and other crap joining you just loose all your guns in one hit while you still have most of your hp...

Conclusion is, i only play white... way more fun... and from the names and factions levels it seems many others do this too at higher levels.. seems this game is borked after white/2k.

Please make the Game fun at higher PS.

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38 minutes ago, Cathy_Toshlyra said:

Please make the Game fun at higher PS.

I used to play a boosted 2,2k car wich legit won at least 3/4 of its matches (I think I have a screenshot of a fully victorious history screen with that car, and it probably happened more, I don't pay much attention to my history/winrate). I'm having more fun at 4k and 6k where I win less but I do something else than tap-firing clueless Aces who pile up in the center of the map with Chords.

 

And speaking of K/D ratio, mine is steadily going up despite playing around 3-4K a LOT with a Vector car (probably one of the easiest things to degun)

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34 minutes ago, Clebardman said:

 but I do something else than tap-firing clueless Aces who pile up in the center of the map with Chords.

 

And speaking of K/D ratio, mine is steadily going up despite playing around 3-4K a LOT with a Vector car (probably one of the easiest things to degun)

No mate, checking the enemy profiles shows this, almost all their factions are above 10, some even seem to play way longer than me.
but on PS 1999 with ALL white items they seem to stand no chance against me ( or me and my spouse, doesn't matter ).

i would't post here if it was against lowbies...

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It's not about how much "experience" they have but what they learnt during that time and how they play. The average 2k game from my point of view consists of 5-6 players piling up in the middle of the map with 8 bots, begging to be tap-fired to death. The level down there is kinda... not so good.

 

The downside to playing there is that you get lots of bad habits very quickly if you don't force yourself to keep playing well. I only play my 2k car when I really, really need to grind items.

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2 hours ago, Cathy_Toshlyra said:

I am playing at 1999 PS, using ONLY white parts.
Most of the time the enemy team is like 2500-3000 PS, and sometimes in my team are also 3500s joining...and bots.

I do not know why but is very annoying.
At 1999 with all white it all depends on skill and strategy, i win most matches, upped my kills/assists from 1.39 to 2.35 in a few days.
Most of the time we even beat the enemy even if our entire team is below 2k and enemies shave 2500s in theirs...

 

This sound as you guys have game experienced.  That include game play, how to use builds on that PS range. 

On the PS that low, a purple weapon build could be a grass cannon. The white weapons can out gun the blue weapon builds.

2 hours ago, Cathy_Toshlyra said:



I am not exactly sure why at higher PS with blue to purple or higher guns i lose more often with the same people in my team.

It seems that the game is somewhat balanced at WHITE quality.
Once you have rockets and other crap joining you just loose all your guns in one hit while you still have most of your hp...

Conclusion is, i only play white... way more fun... and from the names and factions levels it seems many others do this too at higher levels.. seems this game is borked after white/2k.

Please make the Game fun at higher PS.

The blue weapons start to open up for the next level learning and game play. Don't for get there are only 3 white weapon types. 

There are drones, missile, 2 types of cannon, AC, 3 shotgun and 3 MG types...etc....The blue weapon builds able players to do hard raids. We all need wires and batteries too at some point. 

I would say you guys should start to pick and use blue weapon to start to do 3k to 4K. You still can use white weapons, but I think you will find they are starting to be out gun by higher grade weapon builds.

Good luck.

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Last match tonight was 1700 PS cars and 4600 PS cars. Bonehead matches. 

Also some blue weapons are a lot better than others. Here is a chart that shows the weapon vs weapon killing strength of various things based on current DPS and current structure. The far right column is how many WASPS it can kill in an even weapons vs weapon fight. You can see the Junkbow is better at weapon killing than 3 Legendary weapons. That is because the Junkbow has a high structure so its hard to kill and it has a high DPS which makes it very good at stripping weapons,

Pyre 100.00 11.11 47 0.58 0.22
LM-54 Chord 3.46 14.28 60 0.03 0.36
Incinerator 30.00 3.00 423 1.56 0.53
Lupara 24.00 25.32 63 0.19 0.66
MM5-4 Vector 7.60 31.42 74 0.07 0.97
AT Wasp 170.00 50.00 48 1.00 1.00
MG-13 Equalizer 3.63 19.95 123 0.05 1.02
BG2 Goblin 24.77 23.09 120 0.36 1.15
M-37 Piercer 7.00 34.15 94 0.08 1.34
Sledgehammer 27.65 29.17 115 0.39 1.40
AC43 Rapier 15.00 30.00 125 0.23 1.56
Clarinet TOW 178.00 25.43 154 3.36 1.63
Spitfire 25.80 25.42 171 0.54 1.81
Spectre-2 8.08 33.38 135 0.13 1.88
Hurricane 340.00 26.36 175 7.29 1.92
Thunderbolt 33.87 35.74 139 0.58 2.07
ST-M23 Defender 8.00 33.06 153 0.15 2.11
Avenger 57mm 82.00 23.43 217 2.18 2.12
Cricket 1M 240.00 34.07 150 4.41 2.13
Corvo 160.00 34.78 160 3.14 2.32
GL-55 Impulse 54.00 58.91 113 0.75 2.77
ST-M26 Tackler 8.00 33.06 205 0.20 2.82
Judge 76mm 90.00 22.50 320 3.53 3.00
Aspect 9.00 37.19 200 0.22 3.10
Spike-1 161.62 29.38 273 5.41 3.34
AC72 Whirlwind 15.00 25.78 360 0.66 3.87
Hammerfall 42.00 44.32 221 1.14 4.08
Synthesis 75.00 65.22 151 1.39 4.10
Phoenix 160.00 29.09 341 6.69 4.13
Junkbow 136.00 54.40 183 3.05 4.15
Fortune 255.00 43.97 288 9.00 5.28
Executioner 88mm 146.00 29.20 443 7.93 5.39
Little Boy 6LB 110.00 31.43 413 5.57 5.41
Retcher 100.00 61.73 213 2.61 5.48
Caucasus 11.20 46.28 300 0.41 5.79
Spark III 16.00 32.56 435 0.85 5.90
Prometheus V 91.58 79.63 180 2.02 5.97
Quasar 130.00 28.89 535 8.52 6.44
Fafnir 152.00 60.80 261 4.86 6.61
Helios 85.00 73.91 225 2.34 6.93
Cyclone 22.00 32.24 523 1.41 7.03
ZS-34 Fat Man 120.00 27.91 692 10.18 8.05
Nidhogg 184.00 61.33 340 7.67 8.69
BC-17 Tsunami 212.00 30.29 746 19.38 9.42
Draco 20.00 74.38 310 0.76 9.61
Mammoth 170.00 28.33 1167 24.31 13.78
Porcupine 180.00 90.00 384 8.47 14.40
Mandrake 550.00 50.93 689 46.44 14.62
Scorpion 329.01 65.80 552 22.26 15.13
Firebug 25.00 91.91 470 1.44 18.00
Reaper 12.50 125.00 380 0.58 19.79

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On 6/24/2019 at 12:06 PM, Clebardman said:

And speaking of K/D ratio, mine is steadily going up despite playing around 3-4K a LOT with a Vector car (probably one of the easiest things to degun)

Assists are included so MGs always raise your K/D

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@XR57Yep I know, it was mostly an observation that if one's K/D ratio is plummeting hard past 2k PS, they might want to rethink their battle plan.

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