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why 11k ps vs 15k ps? is unfair (4k diference) i dont see 11k vs 7k ps builds, adjust the matchmaking i have a 11k build and this hapen a lot of matches

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On 9/17/2019 at 7:11 AM, Eljesu007 said:

i dont see 11k vs 7k ps builds

I see that all the time unfortunately...

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i agree with you theres a major problem with matchmaker after patch...it seems like they havent recalibrated it after ps changes.  it seems once you go past 9k you can be placed against 12 to 18k anytime...there should be a 1000k higher or lower to your current ps. that would be fair....even 1500ps high or low....not goddamn 11500k against 17680k...thats just broken....devs get this matchmaking righ man or you will start to lose many more players.

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Maybe come play 5000-6000 PS.  My Clan Mate even commented about how close the PS's were. We went from 5200 to 5600 to 5995 looking for the shortest queue times and at each PS the MM was tight. This is PC.

Peace

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On 9/17/2019 at 5:11 AM, Eljesu007 said:

why 11k ps vs 15k ps? is unfair (4k diference) i dont see 11k vs 7k ps builds, adjust the matchmaking i have a 11k build and this hapen a lot of matches

Why are you playing at 11,000 PS with only 4000 battles. After like 9K, MM does the best it can. Plus that high, what is a few thousand PS? Nothing. A 9000 can eat an 11000 and an 11000 can eat a 13000. This is nothing new. Now 3000 versus 5000, that 2000 can be significant. So, come play 5000-6000 like myself and thousands of players on RU. Select RU server in settings. Hope to see you in the wastelands.

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On 9/19/2019 at 12:51 AM, LordTutor said:

 A 9000 can eat an 11000 and an 11000 can eat a 13000. This is nothing new. Now 3000 versus 5000, that 2000 can be significant. So, come play 5000-6000 like myself and thousands of players on RU

grouped with a friend (him at 8k8 and me 5999 , just to make a test) we had as ennemies some 9k and one 11k.. my friend and I, was the 2 last ally alive, and finish mvp and 2nd... 5999 mvp against a 11k ^^

PS means nothing...

but you are right.. 5999 is the best PS to raid, and also the best PS to farm in pvp, they is so many people at this PS, we never wait to join, we have few bots and most of the time 6 to 7 players out of 8..

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On 9/17/2019 at 3:11 PM, Eljesu007 said:

why 11k ps vs 15k ps? is unfair (4k diference) i dont see 11k vs 7k ps builds, adjust the matchmaking i have a 11k build and this hapen a lot of matches

Game logs needed

 

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On 10/7/2019 at 10:43 AM, Skula1975 said:

Game logs needed

 

You don't need logs, just try to play and you will see as well how much fine work your MM program...

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And if any doubts remains to you, just ask to the BigTomToes boy. :lol::015_2:

 

Maybe this guy was in group with another with much more PS... BUT, if the MM trying to balance the overall PS do this... Maybe it is time you restrict the difference in PS inside the groups. Let say max 800 PS?  :yes_yes_yes:

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 are you bot?
       devs really playing crossout? you really not only seeing parameter ? don`t compare our server with RU server

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It has always been a BIG Crossout problem.. matchmaking is TERRIBLE, since always.

Not to mention the LAME BOTS

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last time i played  with my girlfriend she have 5k ps and i have 6k ps and some people have over 5k ps but somebody have 8k ps i think that isn´t  balance you need regulate the matchmaking with 1000ps  diferenz to make a fair play game with more fun ♥

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here you can see the difference i have under 2000 ps and somebody have 3564 ps ;) for people that not know where the logs are C:\Users\Username\Documents\My Games\Crossout\logs

there are combat log´s  in the folders for everyday ^^ ps if you want and if that help to fix matchmaking i can share full combat.log and not forget the difference is even higher then the ps is higher ^^

ps if i can´t post id´s and usernames here edit my post or delete it ♥

05:16:45.008|     player  0, uid 08370633, party 00000000, nickname: vas706vas           , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3136, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  1, uid 06961698, party 35026284, nickname: SusuMiria           , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1884, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  2, uid 08443882, party 35026284, nickname: XasekPL             , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2352, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  3, uid 06958343, party 35026284, nickname: Dein_Meister_xD     , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1986, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  4, uid 08137428, party 35026462, nickname: KLeRMaN             , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3337, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  5, uid 06275072, party 35026462, nickname: dctofflemire        , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3183, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  6, uid 08009905, party 00000000, nickname: stockist            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3564, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  7, uid 05288869, party 00000000, nickname: Bars7914            , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2751, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  8, uid 04080481, party 00000000, nickname: nitron33            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3046, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  9, uid 07454823, party 00000000, nickname: Leoris2019          , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2713, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player 16, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Nicholas            , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2772, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player 17, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Steven              , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2772, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player 18, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Andy                , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 3258, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player 19, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Matthias            , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 3258, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player 20, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Jacob               , team: 1, bot:   1, ur: 2772, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player 21, uid 00000000, party 00000000, nickname: Paul                , team: 2, bot:   1, ur: 2772, ladder pos -1

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On 10/27/2019 at 10:27 AM, Dein_Meister_xD said:

05:16:45.008|     player  0, uid 08370633, party 00000000, nickname: vas706vas           , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3136, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  1, uid 06961698, party 35026284, nickname: SusuMiria           , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1884, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  2, uid 08443882, party 35026284, nickname: XasekPL             , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 2352, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  3, uid 06958343, party 35026284, nickname: Dein_Meister_xD     , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 1986, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  4, uid 08137428, party 35026462, nickname: KLeRMaN             , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3337, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  5, uid 06275072, party 35026462, nickname: dctofflemire        , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 3183, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  6, uid 08009905, party 00000000, nickname: stockist            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3564, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  7, uid 05288869, party 00000000, nickname: Bars7914            , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2751, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  8, uid 04080481, party 00000000, nickname: nitron33            , team: 1, bot:   0, ur: 3046, ladder pos -1
05:16:45.008|     player  9, uid 07454823, party 00000000, nickname: Leoris2019          , team: 2, bot:   0, ur: 2713, ladder pos -1

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image.thumb.png.73d1762507a2a8e73334ce85here is some great matchmaking.  notice the 12k and 11k PLAYERS.  all other PLAYERS are under 9k..   also this dragged in a 10k and 12k bots.  this is crap.  fix your game DEVS.

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The teamed MM is borked has been since I started you can have a team of 6ks seeing upward's of 9k to 10k teams because the MM throw's PS out the window when trying to make match's, It will do it's best to make proper matches but in the end if there's a 6k team and all it has left is a team of 10ks well guess what the 6k team is going to go up against.

 

Now solo play is a little better I run a 10.5k car that see's sometime's upward's of 15k and on a few occasion's higher PS enemy's but as someone said earlier it can take em out if you play right.

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On 10/31/2019 at 9:02 AM, Sandwichlizard said:

image.thumb.png.73d1762507a2a8e73334ce85here is some great matchmaking.  notice the 12k and 11k PLAYERS.  all other PLAYERS are under 9k..   also this dragged in a 10k and 12k bots.  this is crap.  fix your game DEVS.

You're teamed so guess what if all the MM has left is that team then that's what you're going to face, And to be fair if you're in you're porc build there than imo it's fair.......

This is exactly why I dont team anymore and play solo only.

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5 hours ago, x_WARHOG_x said:

You're teamed so guess what if all the MM has left is that team then that's what you're going to face

I always play alone and my 10k build gets matched with 15k+ regularly, i guess every third match or something so yeah....

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Once you get about 9k ps, all the games can have a huge variance of power score. My guess is that there is very few people willing to play at that high level where certain metas are common, but who knows. 

If you want to avoid that, you could always try smaller builds, which will net you less of those games. For example, playing at 5.5k right now, and those games (at worst) have a 2k power score difference, and that's only after going on a win streak.

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On 9/17/2019 at 12:11 PM, Eljesu007 said:

why 11k ps vs 15k ps? is unfair (4k diference) i dont see 11k vs 7k ps builds, adjust the matchmaking i have a 11k build and this hapen a lot of matches

don't bother, they don't care ... i have been saying this since CLOSED BETA. I even spoke to couple of GMs about it and they said they directly forwarded this to devs, but guess what? It's still same...

main problem is that MM puts GROUP VS GROUP which makes matches take 10 years and then as result if it can't find suitable group with similar PS, you end up against very different PS. It doesn't matter if you are in group or not, if OTHER players are in group, you can still end up in same match. so if they have like group of 3 with PS 5 - 6k, then enemy team MUST have a group of 2 or greater, MM tries to match the PS, but if it can't, then that group will end up vs group of 4 with like 15000 PS or even higher, that's how it works. It was explained to me by a GM, so it's not something I make up myself.

this is why group vs group; has to be REMOVED from the MM, instead it has to match PS vs PS and SKILL vs SKILL (this can be done based on logs, match hit ratio vs hit ratio, kills per battle vs kills per battle ..etc). so this way, even if you have 5000 ps vs 7000 ps, then at least you would have the difference in BOTH teams, making it somewhat fair. your team has like 4x 5000 PS and 4x 7000 PS and other team would also have same, that would make it somewhat understandable and fair, but one team is 5k and other team is 7k ... NO, just NO, but who cares, we're just wasting out time posting here, this will never change .. might aswell find a better game to play. 

reason why i'm posting here right now, is because i wait in queue 3-5 minutes with 18k build, if i switch to lower PS, like 12k, then i STILL get put against 16-18k builds and i have 0 chance of winning, so I rather wait 5 minutes for a match and at least i have highest PS possible, so others won't be higher than me ...

only reason i post here, is because i literally have nothing better to do while waiting 5 minutes for unfair match that ends in a loss in 30 seconds or less ... otherwise i won't bother reporting any bugs or giving ideas, because developers know the best, right? they know EXACTLY what players want and what they are experiencing.

I guess they have never heard the saying "customer is always right". If you don't give players what they want, then eventually they just stop playing. Sure you can't satisfy every players, there will ALWAYS be complaining, but if majority of players is saying the same thing over and over .... cmon guys. put some effort in fixing the MM please.

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