80% of players at 12k are using it.
Though that isn’t the main reason I say it is OP, anything less then 2k hard HP (your actual HP bar) is one shot by t hese guys builds some how. like if you are not playing a tank, it is better to just quit. and if you are playing a tank you are not fast enough to avoid them.
the last time i played everything got one tapped by it, but i dont know whether its like a glass cannon or an actual problem. i assume they didnt get changed since the launch
Seeing as 6k HP builds are shreaded by them, I think it is worse some how. And the gun is near impossible to disarm.
i see alot of them at 8k ps.
and they one shot weapons off builds.
they are OP, should be seeing a nerf soon,nerfs always come after battlepasses.
I see a lot of them, but that’s always the case with a new weapon that everyone just unlocked in the BP.
I haven’t played with mine yet, but I’ll try it today.
It does seem strong, but I think it’s too early to say that it needs a nerf.
I’m seeing a lot in CC, but I’m also seeing a lot them getting degunned early.
it doesnt seem comically overpowered, like raijin used to be. but i think it might get some tiny nerf eventually.
ill sell some ingame garbage and test it myself to see if targem has decided to practice sanity or kept pushing items without testing them
awe, the things we know and still need to address.
'how to sell bp’s and other things in a game !.
'make them op so people buy them,then “balance” them (~coughs~ -Nerf) 
i tried it and it seems relatively balanced, its high damage but the projectile isnt the fastest and the reload isnt fast either. but i think a nerf is at least 50/50 possible, and i could see things like jackie make it insufferable to play against
From what I can see, it’s the only weapon in the current BP that’s competitive at all. If it were all about selling BPs, wouldn’t they want to make some of the other guns strong too?
The only other item in the BP that seems strong is the cabin, and even it’s only attractive to a certain type of player.
To me, this gun looks like a more accessible (and weaker) version of Scorpions. Although you could argue that Scorpions have always been OP.
its more like if you fused two spikes into one weapon, the projectile is pretty fat compared to scorpion/kaiju.
but its damn good at popping explosive things
I can’t tell if you are disagreeing with me, or saying something else.
I don’t see the shotgun becoming popular, although I am considering using my bearings to get a second one and then buying a third. But that’s just because I enjoy close range play more than cannons, and because the gun is weak enough that I figure it will get buffed eventually.
The cannon is a cool concept, but the implementation is so awkward that I don’t see the artillery mode ever being that useful, and there are plenty of other legendary and relic cannons that are better as cannons.
Plus, since you only need one of these things, no one had to make the choice of whether to use their bearings for a second, which means anyone who bought the BP can jump right into using this thing as soon as they unlock.
from what i seen this thing does 700 cabin damage upon hit which is… absurdly ridiculous. if you have cabins that boost damage or even modules that boost damage then yeah then i can see the damage for it getting stupid high. jackie gives a stright up 15% boost so thats 15% on top of 700 cabin damage. i dont even think my 3 spikes do 700 damage upon hitting the cabin and they are all fused.
do i think it needs a nerf? idk… i didnt use mine competitively and from what i seen it has a long reload time and not so good impact. sure it has impact but my triple spikes do more then one of those.
idk though. i wouldve liked running two of them on a build though if they ever decide to lower the energy requirement for it though i dont think thatll happen. im kind of wondering if the “trap” part of it works well. you know, slamming the pole into the ground and letting people hit it.
It needs a nerf. It will receive a nerf. Then its value will plummet. Then I will not buy one.
this is where my balancing comes in cuz special ppl like u is who the devs listen to, op this op that, nerf this nerf that, u all r goony types
Commit user detected.
Dude it can do upto from what I Have found out 2.2k DAMAGE PER SHOT. pure damage to a cab. that can one shot most builds in the game.
If you use an averter and DR one it is near impossible to disarm. IT also has a really fast fire rate if you use a hydron and reload module.
Most of its combos are broke in one stat so completely that it isn’t even funny.
Also once again 2.2k damage per shot if minmaxed, and 1.7k with light minmaxing.
IT isn’t OP, it is statisticly and notably BROKEN AS HELL!
with what set up?
regularly it can do 700 hp worth of damage.
with the jackie it will do 805
with the trombone i got damage as high as 1046 - 1529. this is with 2 of the 3 rockets hitting the cabin.
howl with jackie at max damage potential can do 966
a catalina, maxed out with its perk WITH a jackie maxes out at 1163
i havent counted any damage boosting things like the mars cabin either. this is just with what i have that boosts damage and i have tried boosting it as high as itll go.
i think the reason your thinking it does 2000+ damage is because it does heavy damage to structural parts and these also contribute to your cars current hp. from my testing it doesnt even come close to over 2000 hp. the closest i got was 1529 and that was with the heating effect from the trombone.
i run 29k ps and its just fine cuz idk its a legendary so its supposed to be strong but (R)'s like u always cry when ppl take them in low ps, so it (F)'s ppl like me who run in high ps cuz then the weapons r trash
also you want to talk about absurd damage?
the kaiju on a catalina with a maxed out perk on a jackie without the full boost from a full volley hitting maxes out at 1612 and with the perk of the kaiju it maxes out at 1974 on a cabin and 2015 on the damage tester. imo the kaiju is far more powerful if you can land all the shots.
the comit is strong yes but i dont think its nearly as strong as you may think. though some might agree with you. also its 24 fricken energy, what did you expect?
this thing graduated from the lollypop guild and went straight into “get the fuck out of my way” town.
also my triple spike did hit 650 on a cabin earlier so its about on par with three spikes.
623 for 3 spikes on the damage tester and 700 even for the comit.
Commit is broken as fuck. One click 700+ raw damage with an insane perk. It is the most simple weapon targem has released in years. Its even simpler to use than vectors.