Comusming players's trust is not a good idea

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My last mechanic first presented me a 2k€ bill for 1k€ of parts and 1k€ of work. Then after I paid 500€ of cash money before they touched it, they shat me a bill for 350€ of parts and 1k€ of work, telling me “hey it drives and it’s less expensive, all good right? :^)”

No, not all good lmao. I gave you 500€ for that 2k bill, not some surprise bullshit you pull out of your ass AFTER I paid. I paid for 1k€ of parts I want 1k€ of parts lmao, I don’t care about your circumstances and how you think changing the terms of a contract midway without warning the other side is fine. It’s not fine (^% If you can’t honor the contract you say it, we cancel everything and you refund. that’s how life works.

I would have slammed em and refused to pay more than 350€ of work for those 350€ of parts, but I needed my car fast and I got better stuff to do than go to war against cons, but they didn’t see the full bill they sent me. No no sir. If I bought that crappy Radiance BP, you bet I’d be on the phone with my bank rn to refund that scam.

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Do as me: false advertising: reported on Steam and to my country scam police.

I really hate such behavior.

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Even worst, they wrote it in the patch!

taken from patch notes :

  • Until the end of the operation, you will have access to special challenges, the completion of which will be rewarded with event experience points.
  • Every day you will have access to 2 challenges. The first challenge can only be completed in the operation “Radiance”. The second challenge can be completed both in the operation “Radiance” and in any other mode.
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They said it was not an error according to another post. Don’t know from where it comes, take it with salt…

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Well, it’s even worse than i suspected… Just plain scam :slight_smile:

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I suspect snails doesn’t give a rat tail about trust. They just like those retailers, who slap fake price tags in stuff, and when it turns that real price is higher, they expect you will not notice or just decide to avoid arguing with cashier.

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okay, im gonna take a step back here and start with: I was unaware you are using a real life experience to make your comparison, I thought we were playing a sort of Devil’s Advocate thing here.

Secondly, I think you’re expecting way too much or, at least, don’t exactly know what kind of game you “bought”.

I’ll draw my own real world comparison here. I live within walking distance of Blizzards main headquarters in California, and I can’t go out into any surrounding city without running into someone that works on World of Warcraft. From just this, running into the sheer number of people that work on it, driving around and seeing personalized license plates, I can expect a lot from WoW.

This game, this developers team…is not that…it is not that by far…so I have to tone down my expectations of this game, by a LOT!

Things are gonna slip through. Some players are gonna end up reaping the benefits while the rest get the shaft.

One reason I tolerate it and financially support its growth is that I, myself, am a game developer and understand the growing pangs (and growing pains) of trying to build something that is being sourced mostly by the public. That’s not something I’m willing to go into here so, please, forgive me for not going deeper.

Moving on. I apologize for trying to explain away your real life experience, was not my intention at all.

If that’s what you’re paying experts for, then, speaking as a 25 year plumber, I would advise you to broaden your idea of what an expert is.

As a 25 year plumber, embarrassingly so, I’m still capable of flooding someones house IF things don’t turn out right.

My qualified therapist is 10 years younger than me and could, most certainly, give me bad advice.

Working with an expert is the same as having a working relationship where you learn from each other, it’s just that the expert does it better, still fallible, but more capable. So, to end a working relationship with someone for making a mistake is just going overboard.

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My take-away from all of this.

I’m willing to assume they made a mistake, and didn’t do this on purpose. I know many of you are so salty & mad, you’ll poo-poo that idea, but I like to try to assume the best excuse for someone else’s behavior. Call that a life-lesson. I don’t always achieve that, but I try.

Alas, what they advertised is not what they delivered.

In the past, when things have gone sour, they’ve been willing to backtrack & make reparations. I’m hoping they do so, here.

I was going to wait until the end of the event to see if I completed all of the levels since I wasn’t all that fond of the thing from the get-go.

So, I think from now on, I’ll not buy any battlepasses until towards the end of the seasons to see what’s actually in each pass & how easy it is to complete it.

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i hope so too.

exactly!

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Perhaps. My job for a couple years when I was hired at corporate (worse job I ever had too) was letting people go for non performance.

Biggest category for pink slips: Auto technicians that made a mistake. A single costly mistake.
If I did not perform the job to expectation, I too would have had a visit.

This may make me have a very narrow view. I will endeavor to work on this.

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Imagine now, being the plumber that walks into a customers house, presses a single button (the breaker) and says “that’ll be $225 dollars.” THEN, the customer feel ripped off because I did something they were not expecting, something they could have done themselves. They call my company accusing my, myself, of trying to rip them off, and I should be fired for it…the company says “That’ll be $225 dollar or you’ll be sent collections.”

Should I be fired? No, because I did my job. In this case, instead of really plumbing…I was a teacher, and the customer learned that, next time, they should just press the button.

Lessons learned all around.

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I had similar experiences when I did remodeling… quoting lazy men hundreds of dollars for replacing door knobs in their homes was always a mix of hilarity and frustration.

$500 to replace door knobs? I could do that myself!

Yeah, but we know you’re too dumb & lazy to, so if I send a worker out here to do it, you’re paying his wages plus.

The great thing about that was that there was no shortage of dumb lazy people who would pay $500 for new door knobs. Wait… what does that make us when we buy battlepasses? :rofl: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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:fu: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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i USUALLY grind them to the end before buying…but…BUTT, i bought Radiance as soon as I got to the Ravager Trophy. I’m easy. A total slut for the Ravager decor.

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Corrcetly, i will do the same thing.

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Yes, i dissatisfied that, so i view crossout unfavorably in steam and complaint it for unfair compensation. It is hard to say if it will work, but i nedd to resist.

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I get that impression as well. They are guilty of very clumsy capitalism…mostly.

Ya, some of the BS that goes on here doesn’t have good real world applications. You could get smacked for some of this in real life. I can’t imagine telling our customers they had to pay us in “Mazda Money,” and then screwed them over on exchange rates, for example. I doubt we’d be very popular.

I think they just need to work on their presentation. As an American (USA), I can tell you that we are happy to buy premium BS. Most of what we consume is BS. We are a BS consuming society with an economy built on BS. The problem here is the quality of BS. They need to be less conspicuous and overtly full of it. There is a way to sell BS. McDonald’s is just the obvious example, Wal Mart, is another and the entirety of the industrial media complex is at least half BS, and that’s a conservative estimate, I think, but we love it and make those dogs filthy rich.

People know greasy-ass fast food is overpriced, low in nutrition, and mildly toxic, but we don’t care. It’s delicious. It can be BS, but they need to make it better quality BS, if they want BS to be their sales model.

Personally, I’d rather just rely on quality goods and services, sans BS. I think it’s a simpler business model. I think all the shenanigans result in higher labor costs, and lower productivity in the long run. Those are the results I got in life, anyway. On the other hand, Wal Mart seems to be doing great. They sell heaps of BS…it’s “quality” BS though.

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that’s pretty much how i see it.

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No, you will be sued for charging 225$ to press a button.

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Man we are the best.

Comparing produced goods to service jobs… best logic ever.

No wonder we bought Radiance.