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Hey man, I live in the country too.

Florida is redneck as is gets.

But our version of the country is farms with mansions on them. Nothing like seeing a field of cows next to world class horses, and a glass dome encloser full of kangaroos next to the golf course and country club.

It could be riding high all Yeet! Yeet! In a square body Chevy jacked up on 44s. Mudding with the good ol boys, shooting hogs and deer. 4x4 Side by sides with giant speakers blaring near the springs in the backwoods with girls bouncing their booties drinking bud light and white claws.

Then the next weekend it dinner in a 3 decker yacht, sipping champagne, resorts and hot tubs. messages and spas. Brunch with endless mimosa, tapas and charcuterie boards. Sunsets on the beach and sand on your feet.

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Itā€™s funny, Iā€™ve mostly been poor, but also went to school and associated with some rich people.
Being poor has been a cause of much anxiety and stress, but I donā€™t actually envy the shiny toys and lifestyles of the rich.
Iā€™ve been around enough money to know it definitely doesnā€™t buy happiness.

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I know we are going way off topic, but I was poor 75% of my life, living in the hood in California with parents on welfare.

But about half way in I joined the army and it changed my life. (So yeah, Iā€™m a veteran too)

Then when I got out of the army it was all about making money to raise my family (5 kids)

It took almost another half a lifetime of hard work, and finally in the last 7 years we really ā€œmade the American dreamā€

And your right, money canā€™t buy happiness. But when you are already blessed and have a wonderful and happy family, it only makes it better :slight_smile:

Just sayin, yeet!

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I lived in St. Augustine and Tampa for 9 months and 2 years respectively. (Texas, NM, AZ also 2 years each).
It is for sure redneck in FL.

I live in a high mountain desert on the edge of a national forest and a 530k acre wilderness area.
The big thing here is the small 250$ Kayaks walmart sells (which is 58 miles away). Itā€™s all small lakes you have to pack your boat into by hand.

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Very cool, I used to live at Fort Irwin Cali, itā€™s in the middle of the Mojave desert next to the mountains. 25 miles of nothing before you get to the nearest city.

You can be standing in dry sand in the middle of winter then look out and see snow on the mountains in the distance.

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Yes. This is more my speed. I would saw off my own leg to get away from the clanging of champagne glasses, pool parties, and ā€œLook at my new purse Billy bought me in Paris last weekend, Madeline! It cost $40,000!ā€

I had to go take some meds just contemplating it. Iā€™m OK now.

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I would agree :slight_smile:

But my wife manages doctors for a living, she does not agree.

So we do a mix of outdoor fun and fancy life.

I will take any bullet for my wife.

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That is the trade off, there arenā€™t many jobs that pay anything here. (I am retired)
Gotta be where there is population if you want to make money imo.

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Completely.

But we are looking to retire somewhere out in the middle of nowhere.

My wife has been looking at large plots of land.

She was showing me stuff in 150 acres size the other day.

It sounds awesome :slight_smile: but Iā€™m getting old fast. Sounds like a lot of work.

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As for going off topicā€¦ :rofl:

All this rich/redneck stuff reminds me of a funny funnyā€¦

For about a decade, I worked as a UPS delivery driver. Great physical work, good pay, insane benefits.

My route was in a rural part of the SouthEast of the USA for a while. Rednecks, trailer trash, Confederate flags, poor peopleā€¦ And the insanely wealthy. I could name-drop, but thatā€™d be tacky. Weā€™re talking heli-pads in the back yard.

Anyhooā€¦

At Christmas, weā€™d get helpers to ride along in the trucks with us. Basically, weā€™d just use them to run the packages to the doors while we sorted the load & planned the route. One particular Christmas, I was assigned a very sweet wealthy and educated young black woman right out of college with an architecture degree. I highlight that she was black becauseā€¦ you knowā€¦ Confederate flags. Loose dogs. There was justification for being a little uneasy on her part.

So, we spent the first morning bouncing down mud roads, kicking at dogs, staring at flags out of the corners of our eyes and getting to know each other. I tried to comfort her considering the racist vibe she was getting from the area, but there was no denying we were knee-deep in former KKK territory.

I tried convincing her it the whole area wasnā€™t like that. ā€œNew moneyā€ was moving in, and the old trash was being forced out. Going from dilapidated trailer to dilapidated trailer made it a hard sell.

Then, we got to the point when we had to deliver a pair of Wine Club casesā€¦ as in two cases of wine from mail-order wine clubs. See, when you have money, good taste, but live in Old Milwaukeeā€™s Best territory, you order your booze online. I turn right down another gravel driveway - this one more well kept than the others. Around a bend, we come to a large iron gate with a keypad and a phone. I lean out the door, pick up the phoneā€¦

ā€œHey, Hi, Hello! [long pause] Yeah, two cases of the good stuff today, so I need someone at the door to sign for 'em. [another pause and I wave to the camera hidden in the trees] Sweet. See ya in a second.ā€

My sweet little helperā€™s eyes betrayed her shock. WTF is this?

About a mile down a freshly asphalted drive, we come to the estate. Huge. Itā€™s 17,000 square feet according to Zillow.com just for the main house. There are two banks of garages flanking a circular driveway. I stay off the new white concrete & keep my oil leaking big brown love machine over the cobblestones so I donā€™t leave obvious stains. The owner, an older white dude, comes around the corner driving a very nice mud covered side by side ATV.

ā€œMarty told me you had a giftā€¦ Oh! Hey, sweety!ā€ Heā€™s smitten with my helperā€¦

We spent at least a half hour there. He was a redneck. A very rich redneck. As I remember, he gave her a Christmas tip a couple of weeks laterā€¦ a very nice Christmas tip. He also showed off his redneck toysā€¦ custom built vintage Bronco, civil war Confederate rifle, bass boat, 4 door convertible Rolls Royce Phantom (do a search on that last one if youā€™re wondering what kind of money weā€™re talking about)ā€¦

As Jeff Foxworthy used to day, you can take the redneck out of the trailer park, butā€¦

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This is how I feel.

My kids have never known being poor, but Iā€™ve been there and back again and the things I learned from that time I still keep with me to this day.

Everyone has to hope for the ā€œAmerican Dreamā€ or at lest hope for it for someone else. Itā€™s what keep our country going. That ā€œmaybe one dayā€.

The phantom is a beautiful car, I always wanted one. I could afford one if it was only me and my wife, but I have to worry about taking care of 5 full grown people.

And when I say ā€œtake care ofā€ I mean everything, collage, cars, going out, cell phones, place to live, food, shopping spreeā€™s ā€¦ everything. (I bought 4 cars in the last year, yeahā€¦ F@$& Me, right?)

I didnā€™t have anything as a kid. Using cardboard to fill the hole in my shoes kind of poor.

But as long as I have the means Iā€™ll ā€œtake careā€ of all my family.

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Iā€™m not where you are financially, but weā€™re doing pretty freaking okay by my standards. My kids want for nothing due to financesā€¦ not that they get everything. Iā€™m a prude. :rofl:

Hereā€™s another funnyā€¦

At Thanksgiving Dinner, surrounded by the whole family, my brother and I were reminiscing about Christmases past. He brought up a black and white TV we got one Christmas as THE gift.

Mind you, there was color TV when this happened. Iā€™m not quite that old.

By THE gift, I mean we got ONE big gift at Christmas. Thereā€™d be stuff in the stockings or whatever, but the gift was THE giftā€¦ for everyone.

ā€œI still have that old TV!ā€ I told him.

ā€œNo way! Does it still work?ā€ he asked.

ā€œSure does. The knobs are missing, though.ā€

ā€œDude,ā€ he exclaimed, ā€œthat TV never had knobs.ā€

Suddenly, something hit me Iā€™d never realized before. No lie. This thought had never before entered my mind.

I looked at my mamma and asked, ā€œMamma! Were we poor?ā€

Likeā€¦ duhā€¦ THE gift at Christmas was a used black and white 11"ā€¦ ELEVEN INCH TV. LOL

I had no clue because I was about 7 when that happened. We lived on top of a mountain by ourselves in a crappy ancient log home. When the water lines froze - which they would for weeks - that just meant I didnā€™t have to take a bath. Using the outhouse in the snow was a bit of a challenge, though. Nothing like hearing your turds spat against frozen piss. :poop: :clown_face:

What could be more fun to a 7 year old kid than running around the wilderness free from all care?

I tell those stories to my kids and they look at me like Iā€™m an alien. :alien:

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Agreed. Youā€™re absolutely right.

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I think itā€™s really a perspective difference after playing on a new account all of April.
Man it sure is tempting to drop 10 bucks for a set of fused blockchainsā€¦
Man it sure is tempting to drop 10 bucks for a 4 energy generatorā€¦

Have I been able to build a full purple build in a month? Not quite. Got a blight and bit over 1,000 and 3 mini guns and unlock enough parts to be competitive for the builds I can build. (also made white shotgun set and white cannon set.

Itā€™s not really p2w. I can completely ignore paying a thing and make a good competitive farming build in a month.

but oh man is it slow so paying for stuff is tempting

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Full epic build in a month sounds about right.
I can usually grind out an epic a week, without trying or spending money. To me, thatā€™s not that bad. New players shouldnā€™t be jumping straight to epics anyway, and if theyā€™ve worked their way up to a roster of special builds, they can flip those parts to epics relatively quickly.

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I really need to do this experiment myself, with a fresh account.

I can easily do this with my main. But a real free to play test would be fun.

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keep in mind I split my play time.
A sub would have gained more. The battle rewards seemed tiny after a few years of scanner play.

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Is there a way to get a second account going on console?
Iā€™ve been very curious what it would be like to start over, but with the knowledge Iā€™ve gained over the years.

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Are PS accounts free?

Microsoft accounts are free and Crossout has a change profile option in game.

My kids have used these before. I have never made one for myself personally. So Iā€™m not even 100% sure how :slight_smile: but I feel a google search would do the trick.

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So if I switched profiles to one made by my partnerā€™s daughter, I could start a new account there?
That makes sense, I might try that. Will need to get permission to use their account, but they never use the PS4 anyway. The daughters just play their games on PC or the Switch. They think itā€™s weird that I only play Crossout, and have no interest in it.

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