There’s several people on the forum who admit to self destructing at the beginning of matches if they don’t think they’ll win, or midway through if they’re losing. Pretty lame, but I’m not going to report anyone for it.
The only person I’ve reported is the person who made a swastika truck. We don’t need neo-nazi losers in a game that kids are playing.
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Yeah, I think (insert name of user here) used to always talk about how good their KD was, but also admitted to always leaving games at the start of the match if they thought they would lose.
That’s not me, I dish out my fair share of beat downs, but I also take my share of them too.
That’s what always keep me going, as soon as someone stomps me with something I don’t own, then I have to get that build. It fires me up with a mission to build a car, it does not make me mad that I got killed. I’m like “Wow, you go!”
I have fun playing a good game were we lose. You don’t have to win to pull some awesome plays.
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on console where there are NOT enough people playing to pit preselect groups against one another its a big problem.
AS a random cuing if I see the same set of player ALWAYS on the same teams 3 matches in a row I start dropping from matches against that preselect groups because OUR team is entirely random generated. it becomes infant clubbing against the random team. and its a loss almost every single match against the same preselect team match after match after match. IF you show any aptitude to killing their team mates they make it their mission to kill you first. because your threatening their fuel farming.
IT is NOT our fault the match making is broken. we cue for PVP only to land in a PvT match. where there is almost NO contest. due to the extreme advantage the same preselect team has over random generated teams. LIKE mics. and having agreed upon strat BEFORE THE MATCH STARTS.
The win loss ratio is EXTREME. like 9/10 wins to 1/20 wins. especially when getting to above the 2499 ps line.
We are NOT quitters we are choosing time efficiency. vs KNOW your going to lose, NOTHING you can do to shift favor into the random generated teams favor. BECAUSE ITS TOO GREAT of IMBALANCE between random generated teams vs preselect teams. ESPECIALLY if the preselect team is running mics.
you don’t see this as much on PC where there is far more players so they have enough preselect teams playing, to pit against each other. TvT.
its nothing to do with being quitters. We choose not to be deliberately infant clubbed by a preselect team farming for fuel. who VERY INTENTIONALLY STACKED THE MATCH IN THEIR FAVOR OF ALWAYS OR ALMOST ALWAY WINNING. WHEN THIS HAPPENS ITS NEAR ZERO FUEL ACQUIRED IN 2 HOURS. running matches back to back and its worse when there are 2-3 preselect teams running. at the same time in each major ps bracket.
So switching PS bracket has NOT been helping the problem.
FIX the game and I will drop out of ZERO matches. where I have NOT already been killed. or lost connection. Sometimes you don’t realize you went up against preselect till mid match when you finally hit the group who targets single player for destruction etc. then keep tabs on their names to see if they keep popping up together in every match up to 3 rounds. if they never separate in 3 matches you KNOW they cued together as preselect. because the natural matchmaking will mix the teams up from round to round. if cuing only as random.
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Aaaaaand vanlifer is now the first person ive ever blocked on this website.
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I’m on console too, and pretty much only play solo, so I experience the same things you do, and you need to stop getting worked up about it.
In those situations, you have two options:
- Change your PS, and you’ll escape that group that’s tormenting you. I’m finding 5-6kPS annoying right now, because there’s not enough players, but there are a few well coordinated groups with seal clubber builds. Sometimes I’ll face the same group over and over. Move higher in PS, and you won’t see the same group as often.
- Wait it out. Some matches you’ll be on their team, and you’ll get some easy wins. You might also learn something from playing with those players and watching how they work together.
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tried both not working thus why I was bringing it up in forum to try to pressure devs into fixing some glaring issues thats ruining for the NON endgame content players
IF you blocked me then WHY am I still seeing your posts?
What do you mean it doesn’t work? If you change your PS, you won’t face the same group. You might face other groups, but in busier PS brackets you are also more likely to have a good team on your side too.
If you are still encountering the same group, then you haven’t changed your PS enough to escape that bracket.
And my other suggestion is basically accept it and roll with it. That’s always a viable strategy, but you are choosing not to.
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He blocked you. You didn’t block him.
So you see his, but he don’t see yours.
I’m going to add you to that list too.
After today I have a good feeling that I’ll be better off not reading or responding to your posts.
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more than 1 group running preselect. there is usually 1-3 groups per ps bracket. and I can’t get into the high tier ps bracket above 10k. i top out at about 8600 and that is a raid build not PVP build. they do this as means for free fuel . because its too easy to win as preselect unless your running under 2499. BUT since I started talking about it their been at least 1 clan and others starting to build fused clubbers for 2499 because it had been mostly free of preselect groups below 2499.
your not facing the same group your facing 6 groups or more and its not always the same group. across all the ps brackets. wires is the worst. but on psn there is NOT enough players to run TVT and PVP separately at all times like on PC.
If there are multiple groups playing, sometimes you’ll be matched against the winners, and sometimes against the losers. We all deal with this, and there’s nothing unfair about it.
Groups are hard to beat, unless there’s a good group on your side. That’s just the way it is.
Fella with all these posts complaining about how the game works, your clear misunderstanding of the games mechanics (despite being informed otherwise) and the player levels, etc; it seems like the core issue here is you’re just not very good at the game and want to blame everyone but yourself rather than working on your skills.
It’s quite sad and transparent.
You should take a few days, reflect on your behavior, what you’ve been writing and work on what works for you rather than bringing everyone down to your level.
I’m going to follow the above persons lead and block you too as your posts, while very funny, are really depressing.
Good luck.
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That’s a very wise choice, I’ve learned that you can try all you want to roll a boulder up a steep hill but chances are you’ll fail so it’s easier just to build a ditch and wall to block it from rolling any further down (blocking people)
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Some people are like the features in this game; they suck the first time around, but once you get the hang of them your impression changes. Practice and discipline can make a difference…not always, some features in this game just suck, like Crosscrowns (no practice or discipline on my side will change that), and the reconciliation of pigs isn’t ever worth the pearls. Your call though, but I think it’s OK to rant, and I think it’s normal to be wrong often too. I’d suggest letting people do both…because what choice do you have? That’s how people have always been; stupid and wrong, all of them, no exceptions.
What we don’t have to be is insulting and malicious (I don’t think vanlifer is being either)…but sooner or later all of us will be that (or worse), right? Forgive me now or later. Anyway, point is, as long as he’s not being mean, his BS is no different than anybody else’s, IMO. I don’t find him that offensive. Just a little mad, and trying to work things out. It’s hard to deny that this game can be frustrating. I don’t think vanlifer is just farting in the elevator for giggles like some kids do.
I think it sort of is too. It sucks anyway. That’s for sure. I’m not sure if it’s working as intended or not, though, but I am certain it sucks. Poony4u has the only solid advice I’ve seen here on this issue, and that’s just don’t take it so seriously. Follow his lead there, and you’ll be fine. I think he has the proper perspective. I’m pretty sure he’s posted his advice for enjoying this game. Read it. Test it, and remember there is no special prize at the top of this game waiting for you. Play the parts you like, ignore the stuff you don’t…Poony4u can put it into better terms (and has).
If you need technical advice on the game (what wins?), don’t piss-off the Monkey or Tenshiijin, they are good resources, IMO. Some of us others sporadically have good ideas, and I think you should listen to some of what they say…if they’ll still talk to you. You’re pretty energetic with your opinions. I think some of us are panicking a little. Welcome to the forum?
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They have a timer you can set when you block Someone. I never block anyone forever.
But some people need a time out.
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Wrong I score high in randoms the deal breaker is constantly placed against preselect groups match after match where they single you out for being good. because they see you as a threat to their free fuel farming.
Hmm.
I don’t know why a squad would go after a particular player first. I don’t know if I would stay on a squad that didn’t focus fire targets of opportunity first. That doesn’t seem like a winning strategy. (barring odd all kapkan builds types)
My strategy when playing solo against squads: Be the last one alive on my team, doing everything I can to either 1: remove wheels the entire time or 2: Remove guns the entire time. Many times I drive over and cap while they sit and spin.
This strategy wins more than any other strategy I have come up with.
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when squad faces randoms its usually one player that affects their fuel farming where members of squad lose fuel if destroyed by x player repeatedly. but where the other randoms are not able to destroy members of the squad.
Because the focus is to farm “free fuel” as a group as seal clubbers, they target the person who is the greatest danger to squad farming fuel, me in this case. SO the moment they see you they come after you as a specific target to assassinate, because you demonstrated the ability to disrupt their free fuel farming. (THEY DO NOT WANT REAL COMPETITION BECAUSE IT DESTROYS FREE FUEL FARMING AKA winning nearly every single match they are in with no destroyed squad members, especially if all of them are running meta builds. where they try to stay under the hard ps limits.) .
it is target of opportunity up to that point. But once the real threat engages or is spotted they shift their focus on destroying the real threat to their fuel farming. because the other randoms are NOT able to defeat them. since randoms have NO PRE-PLANNED team strat and are not personally good enough to threaten their fuel farming.
this is particular problem on console like PS. because there are NOT enough players to separate preselect/squad from randoms in pvp. so we are constantly moved to PVT if we show any skill as random. but from random standpoint there not enough skilled players to overcome the advantages squads have with pre planned agreement on how to engage. .
Dop3 clan has a squad that regularly seal club below 2499 and in the 3 k range. every time see their squad I drop immediately. because as randoms we were NEVER able to beat them after killing one or two at first.
They been actively trying to taunt me in whisper in gen chat. asking why I always bail when I see them. I didn’t the first 3 or 4 matches but I would stay if there was only one. from the clan. on one or other team. "
I keep telling them I don’t like matches that are one sided infant clubbing. and have better use of my time than waste being constantly infant clubbed by meta build squad And I don’t like helping squads like that either on principle and sportsmanship. . when facing them they obviously are targeting me specifically both in matches. And because they had the audacity to pursue me into PRIVATE whisper about it. even on days where I didn’t see them prior that day.
Thing is, I only know of one squad that is that good on Xbox. All the rest are beatable.
This one particular squad, I leave the game. I don’t score 40 points when I am on their team, and don’t score 40 when against them. Regularly. So I just leave when its the full squad of 4. I have nothing against them for their skill/co-ordination, it’s simply a choice of getting a reward for time spent. These players are a skill level above me and have proven it in CW’s many times. I accept that.
They don’t play low ps though.
I haven’t hit any squads that good on PC yet, though I am mainly playing 5k ish builds on that account.
Do you have builds that are various PS levels? I mean, it’s hard to change to a different bracket if your account isn’t mature enough to have the parts unlocked and I realize that.
pc has enough players that squads are pitted against squads.
each ps brackets on PS has multiple squads running nearly nonstop, especially wires. NOT always the same squads. The reason I stay below 2499 or over 7k is squad winning there is NOT always a sure thing unless they are all using meta wedges. or similar builds. like king/kapcan? (betty mines and snare.) where the team shoves you into the mines after mine layer vacates. because ally does NOT take damage from mines. and because your snared you can’t escape most of time before getting shoved by teammates into the other mines that did not blow. and your mobility usually gets wrecked after a triple betty. or 2.
I don’t have the right PVP parts to take on more squads. Since my weapon choices are too limited right now. till I get a omni directional mobility then other weapons like avalanche, gravstars (as degunner).
I use 2 different 2 unfused gun mace builds for sub 2499 1 triple mace build at 6388, which use for wires and batteries.
I don’t have the right purple cabs for pvp. like toreno. for a triple sinus-o build. for max mid-range sniper. So I am not equipped right to avoid squads in pvp.
ANd I do NOT have enough weapon selection to be picky about ps brackets, yet. and that progress has been slow due to unfair play squads in pvp(pvt) instead of tvt or pvp.
there are still over 200 parts need to get with badges too. so that’s limiting my build options for durability. also missing couple key parts from faction because they are in the last 5 levels. the the train plow. and 2 of the small plows , only have 1 incisor. where there 4 or 6 and only 1 screener. out of 4-6
THus why I wish there was option to not cue with squads for those running as randoms. I would rather deal with fewer matches than be forced to fight squads over and over. AND also it would cut down on the complaints sent to GM’s etc.