Frame drops when rotating camera

after having the game open for maybe about an hour or so, i start getting horrible frame drops specifically when rotating the camera, the longer the game stays open, the worse the issue gets
the issue happens in the build menu, in any match i play, and while driving around in my garage, now in this case i can’t see a bunch of people complaining about it so i suspect it may be hardware related, or something else specific to my setup for some reason, considering it only happens after the game has been open for a while, i suspect some kind of memory leak? but this issue is super weird so idk

troubleshooting steps taken so far
updated drivers
changed graphic settings in game
using the repair feature in the crossout launcher

here are my hardware specs
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both the game and my document files are stored on a sata SSD

here’s a video showing the issue

how much memory / gpu / cpu does crossout use when its running? could your pc be overheating?

yeah I’m currently tracking that, trying to figure out if a rise in memory usage correlates to fps drops etc, it takes quite a few hours for the issue to escalate, pc should not be overheating everything is sitting nice and cool around 58-60c

these screen shots are after maybe an hour or so of playing, the lag has only just started, and from here it is just getting unbearably worse as time goes on




some added notes, xbox game bar is disabled
and i have played with my mousse polling rate, they seem like some common causes for this issue, but none of that worked
i mean, the game didn’t lag when my mouse was on a polling rate of 50 i also couldn’t really move my mouse at all since it was so bloody slow. speed of mouse movement does directly corollate to how much lag happened however
thing is, if it was an external problem like “mouse polling rate” or the xbox game bar, i would expect to be seeing the frame drops being consistent and immediate from when i start up the game
however it takes an hour or 2 before the problem becomes noticeable, and as soon as it is noticeable it gets exponentially worse over time, this is as you mentioned more in line with an overheating pc, where its fine when your parts are cool but, as soon as something gets hot, errors start happening
that is not the case obviously, only other explanation i can think of is some kind of memory leak that is slowly pilling up until something starts breaking, then the more it runs after that the worse it gets for

these screen shots are 30 minutes after the problem becomes noticeable



and this one shows that my gpu performance tanks while spinning my mouse around

i think i found the leak, imminently after loading the game my ram usage is sitting around 1.3GB I’m guessing this will slowly increase until it hits about 2gb, and I’m guessing the game has a max memory usage of 2gb or something like that, cus i have tons of ram left over, but it seems to max out around 2gb

during first game

after first game

loading into awakening

in the garage again

awakening again

garage

kind of seems like every time i load into and get out of a game some residual data is getting saved into ram and not being cleared, i need to test if this is true tho, i might just leave my game running overnight, sitting in garage or i guess, being on the main menu, and i will just see if the memory slowly increases or not

could someone please let me know what their memory usage is after they have been in the game for a while? would like to know if they re sitting around 1.4gb or if they are sitting around 2gb

take out your graphics card and check the fan out,might be getting stuck,and also reseating your card might help,it does for me.
mine gets choppy like that then i lose connection/signal to my tv.

i mean… i can try but, based on my problem i doubt that is the issue
card is not overheating, I’m not crashing and i don’t have this issue in any other game, not to mention if you watch my video you can see that, the frame drops “only” happen when i move my mouse, if i don’t touch my mouse and just fly around, my frame rate is fine, why should mouse movement cause my gpu usage to drop? if it was a gpu issue i would expect to just see it happening regardless, and in all games not just crossout
it’s not like my graphics card is not performing properly.
to me this just like like a memory leak and unless i find a magical setting in game to fix it, I’m guessing this is a game issue, and maybe the game running specifically on my current hard ware, idk I’m going to need to do some more research, but nothing i have found online so far has fixed my problem

i might load up prime 95 and stress test the gpu for a few hours just to make sure

try lowering the settings in crossout,maybe the sync ect.
good luck and let us know what you did to fix the issue.

yeah, as i listed, i tried playing around with all the video settings i could, set everything to potato settings, maybe if i set some settings

from what other people are telling me, there ram usage also gets up to around 2GB so, I’m not entirely sure if that is the issue or not

i should probably post my video settings as well


blue screen what u running windows 94, 95, 96,97,98, xp lol those r the only times ive seen blue screen

win10.
my card would over heat and i would lose connection/signal to tv ‘turning it blue screen’
the fan gets stuck sometimes,i need to oil again so it spins freely
‘i forgot about the blue screen of death’ lol

maybe check your power supply if its giving everything enough power

thanks but it wont be that, an under performing power supply would show up as a problem in any game, in crossout i have my frame rates capped to 116, and my gpu only runs at about 70% usage, my cpu is barely being touched, i run far more intensive games that hit my hardware much harder without an issue, and running something like prime 94 and cinibench, especially at the same time, would likely cause my computer to crash “if” it was a power supply issue, since these are synthetic workloads that are designed to run your hardware at 100% usage, consuming as much power as possible

‘edit- i just seen ur vid settings’

'maybe change(Adapter) ‘Auto’ to your video card.it might be seeing your onboard video and not your card.

did u get it to work yet?
this is my potato settings.just to give some info that might help.
i use a hdmi tv flat screen.


hi thanks for the reply, my cpu does not have on board graphics, i will change it anyway just incase that is somehow the issue, but i doubt that is the problem.
i will try to clone your settings as well and play with that for a bit, see if it makes a difference at all, but i have tried with minimal setting before and, it didn’t seem to help

the onboard graphics is your Motherboard,always change 1 setting at a time to pinpoint the problem…

on board graphics means your cpu graphics, motherboards don’t have graphics chips build in unless it has a cpu or gpu build in (mostly laptops), their will of Corse be a video connection on your motherboard but, your cpu is the thing processing those graphics
it’s not worth changing one setting at a time until i know “one” of the settings fixes the issue, if i set everything to low/ off and the issue still exists, and if i set everything to high or normal and the issue still exists, clearly none of the settings are causing the issue, so theirs nothing to pin down, if my issue went away the first time i did this, i would of solved this by myself at this way
also when you want to track down an issue like this, changing one at a time is a slow approach, i would always recommend a binary search to people, which is essentially, changing half of the settings at a time, seeing if the problem still exists or not, then changing another half etc
so in my case, high/ normal settings don’t work, and minimal settings don’t work
if minimal settings worked, i would then change half of my settings back to normal, if the problem is still solves, the problematic setting will be one i didn’t change, and if the problem comes back, it will be a setting i did change etc
you can use this method for a ton of debugging where multiple anything could be the issue etc, 100 mods in Minecraft and 1 of them is causing a crash as an example

i have a board with it,i just read new boards don’t.

tech is flying fast,hard to keep up. even no more cd’s.

my win10 was a thumb drive to plug into my usb port lol.easy 110$ they made.

so did you switch the ‘auto’ to your card? did it change anything.
i can unplug my card and plug in to my motherboard. but its weak.

anyway thats all i got, i really hope you find a solution and share it here…
‘good luck’

no nothing has worked so far, none of the video settings at all change anything, i even tried legacy gpu compatibility but the exact same thing still happens, I’m going to start playing with random settings, anything more related to the mouse

yes the motherboard needs to support integrated graphics, but again the graphics are being processed on the cpu, when they print the cpu die they also print a small trashy gpu on it as well thus the integrated graphics, graphics integrated onto the same chip as a cpu (although modern ones have gotten decent enough to play basic games) if your using integrated graphics, if your cpu is from intel the name that will show up in your adapter settings, or in task manager will be “intel(r) HD graphics” or something along those lines
if your cpu is from amd it will show up as “amd radion™ graphics”
both motherboard and cpu need to support integrated graphics, not all cpus have a integrated graphics processing unit as intel calls it, or an accelerated processing unit as amd calls it (igpu/apu for short)
and not all motherboards support using integrated graphics, high end boards typically expect a dedicated gpu, and same for cpus
if you don’t believe me just google it :stuck_out_tongue: