So you offend people , call them liars , you just have a personal issue lad.
I am not alone here , you pretty much are , most descent competitive players who actually play and enjoy cw will not share your opinion. I think this is a good place to leave the conversation . Good luck with your vendetta , see you on the battlefield.
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Their oppinion been all over everywhere. âLeave sideways craft be! We are so used to how things wereâ
The fact that whiners cry the loudest doesnât mean their point is the truth.
Just leave it lad , you donât want a serious conversation , you made up your mind.
I want to bring attention to the terrible indeed âmobile game likeâ changes possible coming to this game .
I have no need for a fight , Iâve seen enough topics that result in this endless confrontation. I am not looking for that .
You can call me whatever you like , it does not disqualify my opinion that this is a very bad progression of the game. I am not worried at all about my performance but over enjoyment in this game. I am bothered by delays , I donât enjoy them at all . I donât understand how you want to make everything personal with everyone you talk to. Just reflect on that lad. have a nice day
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I just write one comment, with one opinion. You didnât had to answer, but you did. Everything after is just clumsy efforts to have your word the last. Except guys like you try to maintain false mask of adequacy.
It goes like âI do care about the game, I know whatâs best for the gameâ Itâs just ridiculous how suddenly every other whiner deems himself a gamedev expert of sorts. But in truth they just found a sealclub tool and defend it, but that truth doesnât sound very formidable so they build their castle of lies âwe are the majority!â, âthis will ruin the game!â(when it only ruins the meta they used).
I just been surprised to see you join the hype⌠but you donât really play hovers much⌠but so happens that turn delay nerfs your âown metaâ So I just say âheyâ and you go with you castle of formidable excuses. Who cares. I hope devs wonât give in to the complains of the âtoxicâ they been trying to fix.
Thank you for sandbagging my topic with personal nonsense that has no relevance in a topic about game physics. The endgame in this game is CW.
Off-course I defend hovers I enjoy them , and if they destroy their competitiveness all you will see is dogs , especially in CW. That is not fun , but please keep accusing me of âdefending some metaâ . I care about this game and spend many hours here . I want good balance and good competition. I donât want is easy, I refrain 99% of time from playing any meta beside the meta I create myself and play from7-10K (tempura) .Or will you say playing at 9k on tempura is seal-clubbing? I donât think you really understand what that means, I have no issue with buffing any parts to increase competition , just donât nerf everything so the game is dull.
Its fun to play between 7-8K with allot of variety and players we know and love to play with , casual fun not too serious.
Please have the last word so you can be satisfied.
You have taken all the attention so I hope you really feel satisfied.
Have a very nice day and please one day try some clanwars so you actually know what is going on in the endgame .
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Itâs really weird way to start that âone comment, one opinionâ by straightly saying how the one is playing. Propably some guys with game hours like that are playing different builds - not only one. Do you always see him playing tempura? Propably you see, but thereâs many other builds - and also much more experience with different movement parts than only small tracks. So I donât see a point to say anything about how someone is playing. Is it more valid to hear an opinion about the player who is playing this game A LOT (and also many other players are sharing the same concern) or just one guy whoâs experince seems to be more only with wheels (I donât know have you ever even used those Icarus IV that at least you used to have but if you are not even owning Icarus VII I think you can say anything about hover mobility). And like you said, this is also just one comment, one opinion.
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I Canât wait until they release it! 
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I Play this Game since 4 years (15.08.2018) and have 7336 hours of gameplay expierience. Even Made a Youtube Channel to Honor the Game and all the creativity that is possible. Its a bummer to see they are Killing creativity in this Game, how will you Play a flute Hover with this new camera Change. You cannot AIM without turning your vehicle now. This is really Bad and an unnesseccary restriction. In my Opinion there are Other better ways to get the sideways so called âtoxic Hover problemâ solved. For example reduce strave Speed of hovers so sideways will have a Harder time to Run away or make the hovers mountable in the Front Like Claw or Sabbath.
I understand the Background for this camera Change,they want Crossplay with consoles so hard but with this Change in Mouse steering it will come at a high Cost in Form of a huge PC Playerbase loss. I tried the PTR and disliked the Mouse steering a Lot. So for me this would mean a fat restriction in builds to play.
I am Not a Hover Main but i Sometimes enjoyed it or even had fun with
removing the Icarus and using omnis instead LINK. Also i will miss my omni sideways whirl lil brick LINK. But Most time I try and Play different builds in the meantime i got all Banners from the weapon trials so i have played them all. I fear this step they are going is a big big mistake.
Also i find that its Not okay and its kind of childish to Attack People that share their Point of View and their thoughts in this Forum. Please keep it civilized and on the topic.
I Hope @stonetoes will find a way to adopt His build / Playstyle He is playing spider wasp exclusive and in perfection. Would be sad to See such good Players quit the Game.
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Donât worry, they will not become obsolete even with the change.
Hi guys!
Please stay nice and appropriate.
No insults, and try to stay constructive and on topic please 
Regards
I hope you guys are taking notes to pass to the dev team since they donât come here any more.
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So what your saying is you know what good building in XO is, but decide not to do it anyways.
Thatâs on you.
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Man i really Love These Argumentation, if he builds effective he is called a seal clubber, if he uses some deco and horns etc. to raise PS he is called a guy who isnât able to build well. So you can only loose in the discussion Here ROFL. You guys are really awesome! Does anyone knows a Date or maybe the week this patch will happen?
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Thanks everyone for your input I very much appreciated.
That is exactly what I am saying , Its about fun , having a good time for everyone .
If I use all the tips and tricks I know in this game I would not be in good standing with so many players.
Just Imagine if I use cloak and spaced armour on my tempura creations and remove my decor and make it 1000dura more at the same ps. Some players live in the illusion that everyone is trying to play ultimate meta and if they donât do that they are âdumbâ or âcanât builtâ this is very short sided for a game where we come together to have a good time. Please understand that you can pretty much leave the tryhard meta mindset for clanwars . Some guys take pvp way too serious. ON topic , I spoke to many players about this change and the silver lining is the fixes that we have not really discussed .The clipping on walls and other players seemed to be better , also the weight of builds makes them harder to push around , I very much agree with that realistic change . Tracks have more grip than wheels , this is also fair because you need to have some unique benefits to that movement part to offset the limited turning angle and top speed . That being said I still have a very negative view on mouse steering, close camera angle and general slowdown of all movement response. I have yet to encounter anyone looking positive on those changes .
The locked camera especially on hovers is really terrible . I hope we soon see an adjustment , too much work has gone into this update they will retain certain parts and maybe remove some but I still hope the game will not loose most loyal players. After years an overhaul on controls and general interaction with the game is a dangerous move . The bridge destruction looks nice tho.
Ps @xo_hituhard Date of patch is 25/10
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This is a game on the internet, the people playing are basically bots for our amusement, who cares what they think.
It would be like a soldier saying âNah, I donât want a gun, I will use a knife because people might think Iâm a try hard if I have a gun.â He might be bad ass, but he is also a dumb ass.
To each his own brother.
If your having fun then more power to you.
What I think or any of these guys think does not count.
But keep in mind that you donât owe anyone in game anything, this is for your entertainment and you donât have to be the âgood guyâ.
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I do not mean to be salty or contrarian about it but I find the âsealclubbing at 5Kâ mention full of bs. I do find more encouraging duels and battles at 5K than at 10K+ ps. Higher ps are full of battle pass trolls with buffed brand new weapons. It happened with Nest, Kaiju and now with bomberman jackâo big fat Avalanche builds. Higher ps battles are much less equal than 5K ps battles. Thus, less fun, imho of course. Which takes me to the next issue. If you like things a certain way, itâs an opinion, also known as an analytical argument - in contrast to synthetic arguments. With that being said, theyâre are as reasonable as the other end, the listener, wants them to be. i.e: I like to move slow and steady sometimes and thatâs as âreasonableâ as your âgo fast not slowâ statement goes.
Lol ! You never start an argument with a âif the shoe fitsâ kind of rhetoric. Unless you want to be taken advantage of, I mean ⌠if thatâs ok with you, then please do ! XD
personal nonsense that has no relevance in a topic about game physics.
I defend hovers I enjoy them , and if they destroy their competitiveness
That proves youâre just rambling. You probably canât see it on your own but youâre contradicting yourself XD
Now, blame the others that can see it âŚ
This is a topic which at its opening post asks for opinionâs and shares one , if some players come here to attack my personal game play instead of sharing their opinion than I would consider that personal nonsense aka a player with a vendetta . You might have missed the context or the removed screenshots to support that. You can cherry pick my words and craft a misleading conclusion. If you believe I do not respect and defend your right to share your personal opinion than you would be mistaken. Your comment :âI like to move slow and steady sometimes and thatâs as âreasonableâ as your âgo fast not slowâ statement goes.â I fully agree that you can share that opinion but I am talking here about the responsiveness of the movement parts and any delays in your keyboard input to actual game play results . These thing are possibly changing with this update and I am expressing my concern and opinion. Excuse me if that was not clear and understandable . Your off topic argument about Avalanche is imho a valid one. Also I do not share your opinion that veteran players can not easily create a sealclubbing built at lower ps like 5K. Also one of the main reasons the ps of radiators was enlarged.
These statements I made were in response to a certain player and are actually also not interesting in this topic.
Please just prove that you can share your opinion without trying to be overly provocative .
I would like to remind you that this topic is about movement parts and their controls
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