So Manitou is pretty much useless, which is a shame because it has the best stock horn in the game, any ideas on how the perk might be fixed and made usable?
I’ve got 2 ideas, one of them is about reloading, and one of them throws it completely out of the window. This whole fiddling with ammo system and only getting a +20% damage boost just does not work, there’s way better cabins to do the same or even better simply out of more DPS by reload boosting, or other damage boosting cabins, that are not tied to the absolute bedshitting that the Manitou perk is in practice and thought. Manitou does nothing good enough to be considered over other cabins for revolvers
1st idea: Insta-reload. When you activate the perk, your revolvers are instantly reloaded. Ok enough cooldown for the perk so you can’t spam it too much, but still can make use of it. Would make Athenas and Lucifers usable on this cabin.
2nd idea: Instead of this weird fiddling have at least 1 round in your gun and do an extra reload for +20% damage on all bullets except one, or all of the honestly can’t feel the buff at all, it increases damage, accuracy and projectile speed of all mounted revolvers for as long as the perk is active, once activated. Just a simple push button, your revolvers do better for X seconds pek. The accuracy buff could be ignored, the main thing about this is the projectile speed increase that would temporarily fix about everything that is currently wrong with revolvers in general, and make the Manitou at least somewhat usable/desirable
me and poony had ideas for this cabin.
1: give it a permanent 20% boost to revolver type guns and let us reload the gun anytime we want. also make the ammo a standard number. so instead, for example, we have 10 ammo, well the naguals use 3 ammo per reload, just give them 30 ammo and when you click the ability to reload it it just refills the gun depending on the number of bullets left in the chamber. it doesnt remove the good ammo but removes the spent ammo and refills it with fresh bullets.
2: keep the perk of reloading the gun for the boost but have it like above, instead it gets 30 ammo (or 42 cause i think it has 14 rounds of 3 ammo each iirc?) and when you reload it doesnt kick out the unused ammo but instead kicks out the spent ammo and refills it with fresh ammo.
i said the manitou was unusable before months back but i guess nobody paid no mind to me 
I still use it for revolvers, and I wouldn’t say it’s useless, but it drives me nuts that you can only trigger the reload if there are bullets still in the chamber.
All they need to do is allow us to trigger the reload when the barrels are empty, and it would be a great revolver cabin.
I’m trying so hard to use it with revolvers, but I just can’t ever seem to make it work. Only on the Lucifers I have some success, but then again that’s mostly because imo Lucifers suck really bad on any cabin, I could be running Harpy, Dusk, Steppe, the gun does as bad as on a Manitou
On the Corvos, never got it to work, and now Corvos are just plain bad in general, to the point of not wanting to use the guns at all
Emily was ok I think, it’s been ages since I owned any because I wanted to go too high for them PS while the lower more accurate for them PS is an absolute cancerfest
Athenas, even i am not financially retarded enough to acquire those, Naguals were not for me and I already get angry enough trying to play Medians with modern day server performance
the naguals for me were great. love using them to snipe some weapons off bots from afar. the only real issue with them is the manitous perk. you get two shots before you have to reload wasting a single ammo. if you fire all 3 you have to reload them again to get the perk wasting a full ammo reload. its just not that good…
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you treat all revolvers as autoloader tank with manitou. Doesn’t matter if there’s full clip or down to last ammo, you reload all of them when you’re out of combat, Simple as.
If anything, buff the bonus to around 25% could do. Maybe even higher at anywhere between 25% to 30%, but no more.
I would like to see it have better chemistry with Lucifer, tho. Who on earth is gonna reload the entire fucking clip of 20 rounds (and more if it took out parts within salvo to return rounds by perk)?
For a long time I’ve been using Naguals on a Hadron cabin with KA-2, and just added the Harmonizer, and am happy with it. Manitou’s a nice cabin, but I never really found its perk to be compelling.
I’ve been pleasantly surprised that I don’t tend to run out of ammo with any of the revolvers, even when using the manitou perk frequently and wasting a lot of ammo.
But I usually use the new special ammo box. If I used the rare, the ammo wasting would be more of an issue for me.
It’s mostly the needing to wait for it to reload automatically before being alllowed to reload manually that annoys me.