Oh boy…
Well he already proved he doesn’t know how to play with turrets.
Good on you for trying to help him, put it’s pulling a leash on a dead cat now…
He has no time to build, he must grind? Weird strategy to grind by ignoring enemies and destroying 14 parts in a game. The way he is playing, he will be able to grind out enough coins to buy a Vector by the end of the week.
If reward was based on score. But he gets solid 15+scrap for defeat and 25+ for victory and other resources. He manages to grind almost every weekly limit. He has enough for a few relics now.
Thing is, why he needs it if he neither builds nor fights. It’s his special sport… low effort grind for the sake of grind. One day he’ll buy relics, understand that he achieved nothing by getting them and will leave telling how bad game is, like all whiners do…
Or just get back to grind… for fuuuused relics)))
I think you misunderstand. I have rammed a wheel and like a fender maybe a headlamp too off a bot before I deployed my Turrets at all and saw 80 points float up my screen. But you see there, one Weapon destroyed and 12 other parts too for only 24 points. Why is this Weapon worth so little points, and the 12 other parts, why so few points?
Because my Allies also damaged those parts, and I only got my percentage before the target was destroyed. My Turrets were where they belonged, but my allies wrecked those targets too quickly and they went and died quickly but my turrets were not destroyed so I left them there and went to capture.
Why would I not capture? My weapons are deployed, the enemy left the path wide open, detector remember, and I want 40+ points and 150 sounded really good to me. Drones time out, Drones reload, 150 points, go attack, and allies are all dead. I got paid, good times!
But an enemy player has to chase him all around and he tanks all kinds of damage not targeting his allies and he might ram a wheel off the enemy, get lucky. Many times, I successfully survive kiting the enemy right to allies, they chase me right into a crossfire, I am very hard to kill. My teammates determine my score many battles.
Queue times got too long at that 7000-power score, 5500 was getting shorter queue times and 7900 was better too. Machine guns do not belong at 8000 power score, and I can make 4 Pythons work even against 9000 Power Score, but I have an explosive weakness on that one which I hate, but whatever Power Score had shortest queue times I try to find. But I used 3 expansions and saved the 3 Piercer vehicle! No more losing it by getting disconnected!
Tonight, is Machine Gun Challenge!
I get many MVP’s! With Pythons! When Ultra Locust is my ally, I get good scores because all eight opponents die. When I have terrible team, if I carry at the end and kill all the smokers, then I am MVP, save everyone’s score and we win, otherwise poor score. Good teammates may kill half the enemy team and capture the base, never going and kill the smoking bots capturing our base and leave me with poor score. They also like to kill the last opponent right before you get the capture point and leave you with nothing. They surround the enemy and block all firing angles.
That does not mean I did nothing, just it is a crap shoot like you said, they are a crap shoot weapon, and the shoot went badly. I am talking about a kill or kill assist which proves you did something.
It is just an imaginary goal to keep me grinding. I want kills or kill assists to raise my KBP for another imaginary goal. Turrets are great for assists. Machine guns were good, but many Missions were only 3 which is higher than my 2.85 but just barely. You spend so much time killing one enemy after you strip them, many times you only get 3.
Turrets get all 8 every 10-12 battles, 6-7 uncommon, 5-4 common., 3 or less rarely. I want my Reward! I kill or help kill so give me Resources!
I was getting these screenshots tonight before I got to replying from yesterday, so please excuse the double posting.
Bots are better allies when you supply them with Detector! But how can I win with human allies like these?
I always have Detector!
Again, my Bots are better allies then my humans!
But if these Bots I ride with fail me, then I can get robbed because those 3 humans are not going to get me any points after I die. But I did something! Something died that I touched!
Pay me!
Again, after adding 2 Spears, I have been paid every time.
Peace
Machine guns belong to any PS. Just need right ones and right builds.
Playing 4 piercers on 6500 and 4 IMPs on 9000 barely has any difference.
Saying you don’t have fidgets with your amount of battles is quite poor excuse.
Because you
3 Piercer vehicle
Exposed 3 piecer. On 7000 PS, ffs.
If you don’t got stomped by every second noob you would make your MGs live as long as you can make 2400hp craft live. Unless some sweaty hover outplays you, which can be avoided with tactic and skill.
Exposed 3 piecer. On 7000 PS, ffs.
If you don’t got stomped by every second noob you would make your MGs live as long as you can make 2400hp craft live. Unless some sweaty hover outplays you, which can be avoided with tactic and skill.
If I am going to pay Machine Guns, then I want a handicap. So far, I have never been robbed playing Piercers. I do not want to be the best, I do not have the gear to play the best, or see the battlefield very well, but up close and personal, win or lose, strip or be stripped, I get paid.
Low graphic settings and low FPS can make seeing terrain features difficult. What looks like a gentle slope is an outcropping that stops you dead in your tracks when you ram it while firing and driving. I like driving while watching where I drive and not ramming unexpected and unseen terrain.
Crazy spikes in ping can make it very difficult to drive, sometimes circling is all I got, so I try to circle in enemy base.
I want my Detector and I do not want an explosive on my vehicle anywhere. So, 12 Energy, 3 guns, 2 cooling, one Detector. Bots play better with a Detector on the field, Bots many times determine victory.
Yes, a Droner or Caucasus may also have a Detector, but I always have one. I play playstyles that benefit from a Detector, like Dual Caucasus, like Cloaked Turret Dropper and Passive Melee Rammer.
Like here, there are always Bots to get points with Piercers, then my Bots live longer, and it becomes easy.
I always screenshot 8/8 Missions, so I just got these.
I just cannot shoot anything with the guns one pin lower, I just cannot shoot down consistently, especially against melee. So, guns exposed, sorry, I tried this weekend.
Fused Big G literally brings the slightest fart in the game. If you can’t make that sacrifice. What are we even talking. You sacrificed your entire ability to play and be useful but won’t have a small gen… sheesh.
If I am going to pay Machine Guns, then I want a handicap
Your handicap is team full of useless animals like half of the time that you need to compensate.
Don’t you want to be able challenge and fight anyone? Or will you just admit you avoid that competition. In that case you don’t deserve more rewards than you are getting.
Low graphic settings and low FPS
Perhaps you should have grinded irl for better hardware?
Idk man, it’s just an everlasting string of wrong choices with you that almost seems right but in the end just doesn’t add up because you not getting what you want.
Your handicap is team full of useless animals like half of the time that you need to compensate.
Don’t you want to be able challenge and fight anyone? Or will you just admit you avoid that competition. In that case you don’t deserve more rewards than you are getting.
I can only play Machine Guns for so many battles before I get bored out of my mind.
I do have 3 Fidgets and 1 Imp. I only have so much storage.
They are only 25 Kilograms more each, but my Piercers are fused, and my Fidgets are plain, I think they were ingredients, I forgot I had 3.
I don’t know friend, in my experience having a Detector increases your win rate. I have been playing since open Beta and I wanted a Detector bad, took a long time to get one, then I went for Weapons suited to Detectors, like Caucasus. Then they nerfed Caucasus hard, but I kept finding a way to make them work. They nerfed them more, I kept playing them! Also, Wheeled Drones and Flying Drones worked well with Detector, then added my first Cloak. Always played detector vehicle, aids all allies in my experience.
All that said, when the game wants you to lose, you will lose.
I see. You really hold fast to the old things.
before I get bored out of my mind.
Who wouldn’t if they play that much.
Keeping winrate close to 100% is fine enough challenge for me. I get bored too… of the games where I don’t had to put much effort to win while staying back saving my hp for the endgame.(so see? I’m not even sealclubbing anything and stealing the game until I have to)
they nerfed Caucasus hard
I see players playing it still. Quite often. Quite effective. Why don’t you? Too weak weapon?? So you DO seek for a mighty meta one?
when the game wants you to lose, you will lose.
In what way? Gives you pathetic allies? I almost won a game where I was left alone against 8 ( In the end I had 1 sparking MG, 2 wheels, and one burning dude running from me and drone launcher out of launches hiding somewhere. Was quite epic, to split 8 players to be ably kill them one by one. I did a lot of damage while my allies lived to make that possible to). I play for epic games like that, and pulling some quite sinister odds. Half of reason to play a game like this.
I manage to keep 80-100% winrate quite reliable. The only evil is some 3-4 meta parties - that’s the evil. But that’s the more reason to have the most effective craft possible.
I woudn’t choose making my build trash-ier for sake of helping allies with radar. Seen so many time them betraying such efforts that I’d rather have as much fighting power as possible.
I manage to keep 80-100% winrate quite reliable. The only evil is some 3-4 meta parties - that’s the evil. But that’s the more reason to have the most effective craft possible.
I woudn’t choose making my build trash-ier for sake of helping allies with radar. Seen so many time them betraying such efforts that I’d rather have as much fighting power as possible.
Your logic is sound as always. Just not for me.
I see players playing it still. Quite often. Quite effective. Why don’t you? Too weak weapon?? So you DO seek for a mighty meta one?
They never needed Coolers or Radiators, so you paid 4 Energy for that. If I am going to equip Coolers and Radiators, then I will use 3 Energy Guns. Caucasus were almost as Durable as a Cannons to make up for their Giant Size and I liked not having them stripped like Vectors got stripped.
Spectre2 is 4 Energy and that is just dumb. Equalizers fell off if you sneezed on them.
So, all my Trials were completed with 3 energy Machine Guns, like Tacklers that I bought very cheaply after nerfs.
I am getting good queue times tonight at 7000 with 3 Piercers, 2 Cooling, one Detector. Small Tracks go backwards as fast as forward and I am doing well keeping my guns on tonight, mostly. But I always get my 40+.
I am telling you friend; the bots only play this well if you give them Map Information.
I ran in got First Blood; the bots went crazy defending the Encounter Circle.
I was burning but escaped and just picked apart the remaining enemies from distance. I never had to be in danger after the first wave for 1st Blood.
Like these, what can I do with these humans. I help the Bots, but these humans cannot be helped if they are far from the Bot fight.
Michael lived too long on the enemy team, but you see we took out their bots before they got many points.
They never needed Coolers or Radiators
They just were incapable of using it’s bonuses…
Caucasus were almost as Durable as a Cannons
They are durable still, especially if you protect them. People do play them. But somehow what good enough for everyone isn’t good enough for you. Or not bad enough? idk.
Your logic is sound as always. Just not for me.
It’s not mine. It’s just “The logic” is not for you. Why you dodge it all the time and end up with stupid turrets which you don’t even play right as even turret experts found you weird.
You want radar? You like caucasus? Play it. People do.
It’s either growl+radar+seal+2x caucasus+sometihng else 1 energ, or jannabi with same stuff. Plenty of spare energy without gen. Might use Trombone+2xCaucasus+Radar+Seal/shiver on Janabi or howl or whatever cab. Sounds like quite a teamplay setup.
If you so scared of placing gen to have 14 energy and 3xCaucau build.
You weird. So many options. Yet you always choose something beyond sanity.
You weird. So many options. Yet you always choose something beyond sanity.
Thanks! I really appreciate that, for real.
oops, see these, when the game wants you to lose, you lose.
What more can I do 7v8 and 2 junk bots?
Might use Trombone+2xCaucasus+Radar+Seal/shiver on Janabi or howl or whatever cab. Sounds like quite a teamplay setup.
This one really sounds like it passes all the criteria. Tell me whats wrong this time.
What more can I do 7v8 and 2 junk bots?
Proper build, proper play…?
It’s either growl+radar+seal+2x caucasus+sometihng else 1 energ, or jannabi with same stuff. Plenty of spare energy without gen. Might use Trombone+2xCaucasus+Radar+Seal/shiver on Janabi or howl or whatever cab. Sounds like quite a teamplay setup.
I do not use light cabins. I am so done with Caucasus, even in raids Special Frontal Machine Guns with Cooling is better than Epic Caucasus to strip weapons. If I were to use 2 Caucasus, it would be on a Jawbreaker with a Detector and lots of HP.
Jawbreaker is too slow now as Heavy Cabin, formerly Medium Cabin, no more bonus from Hans, 10 Energy, 2 Weapons, Oppressor for turn speed, Hans bonus to speed, 4 Bigfoot Wheels, Epic Detector.
Caucasus used to run in and go bust heads, drive like the devil, shooting everything.
Now, you stay behind the pack, lock onto someone busy, stay away from any fast-moving enemy, use allies as shields, attack from out of sight. not really my style anymore.
Turrets you run into the fight, ram who you can, drop your gifts off and ram more or run away and get out of the way for your allies and come back in a minute. I like ramming everyone who comes near my turrets, the Call gets a boost to power for every drone deployed, stacked up to 3 times. ramming is fun.
Proper build, proper play…?
You can see I worked with my Bots and a human; we had team play but it was our time to lose.
Might use Trombone+2xCaucasus+Radar+Seal/shiver on Janabi or howl
I do not use light cabins.
WTF dude? Howl literally same mass limit and class as “the call” you use.
Frontal Machine Guns with Cooling is better than Epic Caucasus to strip weapons
You suddenly care about stripping weapons? you didn’t with turrets.
even in raids
Don’t make it more messy ffs. Raids are whole another topic requiring totally different builds.
and lots of HP.
Could literally have same HP on howl caucasus as you have with turrets now.
4 Bigfoot Wheels
Why? Just why you need those on caucasus build?
Caucasus used to run in and go bust heads
Used to be BIAS. Talking of missing bias?
I worked with my Bots and a human
They worked. You ride n spam.
They worked. You ride n spam.
I got top score of all 16, it was Piercers. Just a misunderstanding.
WTF dude? Howl literally same mass limit and class as “the call” you use
I did not see Howl, I do not own a Howl, too much money, but I only saw Growl and Janabi, I have a Janabi from BP.
And my Fused Growl I never use.
I rarely have use for my Fused Caucasus, not even Raids, but I did not mean to bring raids into it, but that is all I own them for now and they cannot even do that.
Why? Just why you need those on Caucasus build?
To keep the power score higher, too low is not right.
You’re hopeless.
I think you misunderstand. I have rammed a wheel and like a fender maybe a headlamp too off a bot before I deployed my Turrets at all and saw 80 points float up my screen. But you see there, one Weapon destroyed and 12 other parts too for only 24 points. Why is this Weapon worth so little points, and the 12 other parts, why so few points?
Because my Allies also damaged those parts, and I only got my percentage before the target was destroyed. My Turrets were where they belonged, but my allies wrecked those targets too quickly and they went and died quickly but my turrets were not destroyed so I left them there and went to capture.
Why would I not capture? My weapons are deployed, the enemy left the path wide open, detector remember, and I want 40+ points and 150 sounded really good to me. Drones time out, Drones reload, 150 points, go attack, and allies are all dead. I got paid, good times!
Because all you did was very very little damage and 1/3 of a base… Pretty much nothing to help your team.
I have to tell you again, you play very wrong and ineffective.
But an enemy player has to chase him all around and he tanks all kinds of damage not targeting his allies and he might ram a wheel off the enemy, get lucky. Many times, I successfully survive kiting the enemy right to allies, they chase me right into a crossfire, I am very hard to kill. My teammates determine my score many battles.
What brain dead enemy would chase you around? So instead of fighting, you play as a lure for the enemies, HOPING they will mindlessly chase you around the map while your teammates fight?
Basically you drive around (I refuse to believe there are enough of noobs that chase 1 car over the map every match) and your team does the fighting while you do nothing, AND expect a reward?
I get many MVP’s! With Pythons! When Ultra Locust is my ally, I get good scores because all eight opponents die. When I have terrible team, if I carry at the end and kill all the smokers, then I am MVP, save everyone’s score and we win, otherwise poor score.
By all you wrote so far and your strategies, you seem like you do nothing, just drive around and fall in pits with the enemies.
And now you basically say you win when you have a goof team mate who carries you.
How do you carry the team? By running around in circles? And doing 14 parts destruction? Are the whole enemy team just 1 part naked cabins with no wheels?
He gets ~1000 score fairly often so you won’t convince him he’s doing anything wrong.
He’s only unhappy that for some battles he gets no reward and that slows him down grinding every weekly limit.