It wasn’t an issue before, when there were SGs capable of doing that. It became an issue where i was forced to resort to other SGs like thunderbolts which are not meant for that.
Meanwhile i’m switching to gremlins that are meant to do exactly that.
There are advantages using this type of strategy, it’s not all about being a W warrior.
Is it like sarcastic?
SGs are, at fitting PS a guaranteed MVP and just way to OP, thats why I prefer not to use them (top one is Growl+ampere+4 sledgehammers+seal) its just a toxic build. SG should be nerfed of weapons should have resist to SGs.
You can degun any light-medium weapons on ojne overheat, only builds you have to beware are very heavy melees and lancers - so just other meta-toxics. Sledgehammers has like no hitbox and can kill anything that can not outrun you.
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Please see above, i already responded to you 9 days ago and i’m not being sarcastic and i wasn’t being sarcastic then.
Its hard to tell sarcasm from honest error.
To be fair, Shotties have been hit HARD with the last 2 nurfs as no other weapons to date. 40% range removed then 54% of heating. People here complain that their favorite weapon get 10% damage nurf when SG’S have been ripped apart.
The market tells you how good a weapons is. Breaker went from most expensive relic to cheapest - that says it all.
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I don’t think that shotguns need a buff to their durability, I think the durability corresponds well to their size, and players have been complaining for years that the Breaker is too durable.
The radiator changes heavily toned down shotguns’ DPS per energy, but they’re still pretty good. The only thing I’m kinda upset about is that the range nerf made them noticeably worse at chasing down hovers and turret/drone droppers, but still a bit too good against other ground builds.
Of course, none of this has stopped players from complaining about shotguns (even though RFMGs can do everythin a shotgun can, but usually better) not only because of wedges and other builds that rely on physical contact, but also because shotguns are great brawling weapons and too many players either use builds that can’t properly brawl (read “shoot all weapons to the side”) or they can’t properly shoot and drive at the same time themselves.
I like to take one of my shotgun builds for a spin from time to time, but I’m glad that there seems to fewer of them now, I just wish they did something to the shotguns that put even more emphasis on running and gunning with the shotguns instead of wedging the enemy. But I honestly expect that shotguns will get another nerf in the future instead of a buff.
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Honest error?
I’ve been sincere, i’ve tried to show you SGs builds are far from perfect or invincible due to many factors and as any other build has it’s shortcomings , their strong suite is short range, if you take that from them what’s left?
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Not a buff, but a return to former glory, limited angle SGs were characterized buy that, now they are worse than all the others.
I would be happy if the coolers and rads returned to function as before.
old durability values
And in the ruptures case, having the old perk back.
They limited angles still have more durability then the others. That’s what they sacrifice to have it. Changes in perks are secondary issues.
Shotguns have been overpowered for years and years tearing everything apart.
I am glad those stupid noob weapons have been nerfed, and no they should not be buffed again.
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One special thing about shooter mechanics of XO is - you can almost never disengage. Due to wedge breaker mechanic if oyu touch a car - its glued to you. Turning and accelerating takes time.
Therefore - any weapon that excells in “ram and push” situation is synergizing with the core of the game. Especially at lower PS SGs can not really be countered. There are barely hovers and even then - they are slower. Unless you facehug a heavy melee or very tanky canon build, your enemy is dead the moment you touch him - because ANY sane weapon (MGs, rfMGs, AC, rocket launcher , plasma guns etc.) can be stripped easily. There are of course limitations to SG - but they perform well in even low skill situations, while many other weapons require significant training. EG - Wasp is a nice weapon, but to perform consistently it requires a LOT of practice.
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there’s your real problem. Personally i don’t waste my plows to be part of a wedge, i use them for armour.
I like to brawl, i like my style and not all SGs are made equal.
The sane weapons as you called it, don’t suite me, ACs with a single exception (whirl) it’s the opposite of my likings
Missiles…well, i don’t know what happened they need to be fixed, the nest needs to be more reliable (harder to break the lock on a target) and pyres need to be able to do tighter turns.
But one thing i agree, weapons overall need to be more durable.
Energy weapons…nah, too much scy fy and the animation seems coming out from Doom, not my style.
Melee are easily counter.
I’m starting to ponder making a lance build.
I just don’t understand why they don’t fix some of the problems e.g.
wedges, by just changing the hatchers and blades hitboxes, the problem would be solved, no more wedges.
Until then every weapon that has the misfortune to be coupled to a wedge and end up standing from the crowd it’s bound to get nerfed.
please, please please please please please play the game before you post.
Since it’s obvious you haven’t recently. Kthxbye.
Played yesterday, yes, shotguns still a cancer, thanks for your concerns w warrior
No, I’m not concerned for you as a W warrior. Sorry… I think you should have to learn to do something else besides press W and then cry when someone circles you to death without touching you.
Like I said… .play the game sometime before you comment.
Obviously you haven’t or else you’d not be afraid of shotguns.
Low-key, I might be the best kiting wheel MG player in the game(best on PS4 by a landslide). So I’ve never had a problem with SGs, except when Aspects were 12k on PS4. That gave Hammerfall minotaur builds the edge on my spectres for a while. Early Punishers vs. current perk Breakers was rough, but the aegis game shored up the difference. Nowadays they are only a threat in PvP if I’m not sitting up in my chair. Piss me off enough, I sit up and beat the brakes off them.
Tl;Dr - SGs are fine where they are and are easily countered by superior driving if using MGs.
did you miss it? hitboxes HAVE BEEN changed for almost a year now - reign of wedges from 2021 is over. it was like 50% wedge-or-die.
Nerf of wedges gave birth to all-shotguns and after nerfing shotguns it was all trucker-borer meta. Actually nwo that I think of it - Gaijin (partially) fixed 3 toxic metas in the last year.
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No, i didn’t missed it.
I just don’t notice any difference; wedges still wedge easily. It would be nice something different like pushing, smashing instead of just wedge.
let me tell you, with my heavy build, sometimes if all stars align i can drag other builds while shooting, for the longest time just like a dog running away with a bone in his mouth, sometimes even two or three builds…it’s glorious. Other times i just drag a build into my own lines without using a skinner.
Unfortunately, trucker borer was after my time, and I’m melee resistance since 8k, 10 k and now 11/12k i’m almost immune to them. Builds like triple harvester (bots) in PVP/PVE i just push them away even head on from the cap while shooting.
But the point is, SGs got the “special” treatment, after them, it was the turn of the borers getting same treatment, something else will fill the void and will get the same thing, and so on.
In the end you end up with a bunch of nerfed weapons, complaining about nerfing more weapons because your own weapons are weaker.
Actually it seems pretty balanced right now - there isnt a “80% build” at the moment - like it was with shotgun wedges or borer-truckers before nerf. Now its pretty mixed and reasonably diverse. The “exhibition clon army” is the typical sign of great disbalance. As of now - canons, mgs, AC, some melee - its very reasonable. Finally.