The tests he do indicate a few things but i think for real testing completely same things should be used.
Agreed, this is just a YouTube video of a guy that does not have the proper testing materials. But that is how Crossout would be too.
For the real military testing look up “Aberdeen proving ground”
They come up with pretty much the same results.
This is the concept that modern tank armor is designed around.
He pretty much tested it on what it counters best tho. Wasn’t the M16 hated in Vietnam in part because 5.56 can’t even cut through dense foliage without tumbling off trajectory/losing any kind of penetration power? A projectile so long and thin and fast and light is bound to not like having obstacles on its way.
The 7.62 obviously fares way better, seeing how it’s relying more on mass and raw energy than speed and its profile to penetrate. Soviets also made a 9*39mm round based on that one, to enjoy subsonic speed with similar effects. It’s probably even more extreme, having low penetration power on actual armor, but cutting through light obstacles like they’re not there.
Anyway, there’s pros and cons to spaced armor, but XO is so removed from actual ballistics that I’m not sure it’s worth scratching our heads over.
100% this but…
One of the things I did when I was younger was be a 45K in the US Army. That’s a turret tank mechanic.
It’s just funny to me when people complain about spaced armor, when that is what is used in real life.
Sure XO’s version of Spaced armor looks way different, but the basic concepts are similar.
There are a lot of photos floating around of a certain current “military operation” where tank crews have been trying to improvise a form of spaced armour, but it has not been working well for them. Rockets and shells just seem to fly through it, and still penetrates the real armour below it.
It seems like to me that this would be more accurately described as “layered” than “spaced,” but it’s the same principal at work, I suppose. Hiding behind a wall has always been a thing. It works, mostly…as log as the wall doesn’t explode in your face…layers. Layers. I’ve been telling my kids this for years, and they still leave the house without even a jacket.
I think layered would be more like ballistic glass or bullet proof clothing would work i.e. no air gaps.
Ok but spaced armour was always designed to reduce damage from explosion weapons. He even says at the beginning of the vid spaced armour was designed so vehicles can take an enemy tank shot. Same as in crossout. Him just useing non explosive rounds isnt much of a test. That was a dumb video. With results ending in no duh bruh.
Cope cages is the term for those slatted tank roofs that I was trying to remember.
They might work against RPGs, but not against modern anti-tank weaponry.
But they do make the crews feel somewhat safer, so maybe there’s a psychological advantage.
XO spaced armor is not what the guy tested on video. He tested layered armor, not spaced armor. XO spaced armor is pretty much identical to slat armor which are those cages around vehicles. They are purely to add standoff distance for shaped charges and HE, because those weapons have a limited distance in air unlike ballistic penetrators. All weapons in XO are shaped charges and HE in principle. If cannons were AP, a Typhoon shell would fly through 4+ CW hovers unless it hits something that can decelerate that 125mm shell fast enough to trigger the shell fuse. It would probably pass through 1 hover before exploding. It would certainly fly through most wheels and other less dense parts, likely even goliaths.
Layered armor requires the use of actual hardened plate that is rigid and thick enough to deform and deflect a projectile.
Idk, sounds like it has some merit as the US used M193 at that time which is only 55gr. I wish I had some guns but I live in jersey, otherwise I’d do some testing myself.
A consideration is barrel twist rate. The M16A1’s at that time had a 1:12 twist rate while AKM’s have a 1:9.5 twist rate, which gives the 7.62x39 a lot more RPM’s so the bullet inherits a stronger gyroscopic effect. Purely speaking on the gyroscope factor this seems to be a true assumption.
Sounds like a Paul Harrell video and a hot plate of dinner to me. 7.62x39 123gr w/ 1:9.5 twist vs. 5.56x45 77gr otm w/ 1:8 twist through an angled sheet of metal shim stock at a target is the setup here.
You guys go off the deep end on this stuff lol
Just wanted to give you something other then hovers to talk about.
You should show us some more of that kick-arse art work you were doing…but with a seasonal flare. That stuff was pretty awesome.