I can’t watch your video at the moment, but are they selling to each other?
I’ve seen players do that before. They’ll coordinate their timing over mics, and then they can exchange items at much lower prices to each other.
The more nefarious version of that is someone getting control over someone else’s account, and using this method to transfer the entire inventory to their real account. Could explain a large volume of sales. Can you see what kinds of prices they’re getting on their sales?
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No they actually got a code in their bid sizes to avoid each other. One player bids .02 higher and the other bids .03 higher. They are mass milking the market with software on huge scale that is hard to wrap your head around. This is as real as it gets, i’m automatically outbid on absolutely everything all day and all night long, between the 2 of these players they are flipping 125 epics per day everyday, not counting legendaries and specials.
Have you tried making your bids in larger increments? If it’s software based like you think, there might be a threshold you can hit where they won’t automatically outbid you. And if there isn’t a threshold, you could potentially bid them up and take advantage of that.
I would experiment and see how the bots react to various circumstances. It’s worth a try. If it’s automated, it can be manipulated.
I already tested that out in either video 2 or 3. Trust me the only way to beat them is avoid any items they are on which is all modules, weapons, cabs and movement parts. They are not on paints and decor however which is where I migrated too.
If you can’t beat them then force the bots to bid higher then they should? Can you do that? Make them buy items higher?
On Xbox, I don’t play the penny game. If I cant jump the price by a whole coin and still make a little profit I don’t even bid on it.
Even on Xbox with human players if I bid .01 more, then a few seconds later someone out bids me. But if I go up a coin or two many people drop out.
Now this depends on the item, the penny game and the coin game don’t work on Relics. I jump people hundreds of coins on those.
I’t don’t mater to me if I’m making less profit. Because the key is to keep getting a proof no mater how little it is.
I feel like it is harder to buy items then sell items, and if I need to take a few coins less profit to do it, then so be it. At least I am making profit.
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Between the 2 players both from the clan xpio they probably got a full 80 trade slots open, can you keep up with that? rough monkey can you flip 125 epics 100 specials and dozens of legendaries per day every day of your life? That is the sheer scale they are flipping. I also want to ask you something which is how many special, epic and legendary patches do you have?. I asked you that before but you didn’t answer me.
No I can’t keep up with that 
I get you brother.
But you don’t have to deal with everything, I think Pooney and my question was “Does the script the guy is running have a coin amount it will not go over?” Because if you can find the amount that stops the bot from bidding you might be able to at least make some coins.
Looking for a work-around it might be faster then getting them to change anything.
I’m McDonalds man. I have tried to explain a few times over the years that you make more coins in fast flips for small amounts then larger amounts at a slower pace. (I stopping trying to teach people how to play the market, they just get mad and say your wrong, so now I keep all the coins for myself)
Also note this is not all my badges. The archives for the first few years of the game were deleted. So players from the first year are missing a lot.
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I got exact figure it is 2% roi at least for poharon, I don’t know about the other one but I think that one stopped at 4-5% on one of the items. Anyways 2% is not worth the effort to do manually if you get what I am saying, you will go mad fighting over crumbs. When I am cutting the line even as close as 4% you also got to look at the history of the item and make predictions. Anyways I am still making coin but only on paints/decor.
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Yea but your also doing more work for marginal gains. Id rather make 3 times less money for 20-30 times less work. I only got to update my offers every hour or 2 on paints/decor but when on the main items I am constantly sweating always updating clicking the mouse non stop. It was bad enough before the bots came around when I use to update my offers every couple to few matches but now it is just impossible, can’t even play the game if I wants to go at it, who wants to live like that.
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Not really as marginal as you think and I spend very little time on the market, maybe change over my buy and sells a few times a day.
Xbox and PC markets are very different animals. Please keep that in mind when your talking to me about market stuff.
For a blue flip on Xbox I aim to make 20 coins minimum each flip and I have some blues I flip 4-5 times a day that I make between 75 and even up to 150 coins each flip profit.
Also with blues I might sell 4-6 of them to one guy at one time. So if someone buys 6 wheels at 20coins profit each I just pocketed a cool 120coins in a single sale.
Also, you need to consider game retention issues, more people buy and sell blues, because they may never have much more then that.
They really need to remove corridors on PC.
Xbox market is the true power of Free to Play.
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I found a third one. This newly created account only earned rockefller 5 on july 29th and already amassed 105 epic patches. It is a very recently created account by poharon, I am 100% positive. All 3 of these accounts are online flipping in mass. This 3rd account I discovered today shortly after making my last video was only created around July 13th last month.
These 3 accounts combined are flipping at a rate of 177 epics everyday and that is just epics, not even counting specials and legendaries.
Here is the video I made about this third newly discovered market bot.
Friend, this morning I found a bot when I was selling a paint. The player’s name is arbiter and his profile is empty. He has no battle history and his collection is empty but he has several buy and sell patches.
Arbiter is not news that is a real feature developed by the devs. The ones I’m talking about collectively earned thousands of patches in the span of 3 to 4 months logged on flipping at least 18 hours per day. They only logs off in an attempt to avoid suspicion. I’m pretty sure these dudes are russian hackers, hell even the last bot I found got a user name that is named after a computer virus I don’t think that is a coincidence. Olatheworld was a computer virus that was developed in the late 2000’s and that’s what his username is.
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would make sense. we hear about russian hackers here in the west often enough, but ironically but also obviously russian hackers mostly hack other russians.
was thinking about “177 epics flipped per day by the three”. you have any educated guess on how many epics get flipped on pc per day in total?
cant tell if the total number is a lot higher or if 177 epics could be 5/10/20% of the total epics traded, i.e. it actually being sort of a big deal for targem.
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One of them is not russian because I was talking to him but is real life friends with the other 2(who are russians) so these 3 accounts are all related and they know each other personally in real life. oloatheworld gave me some non sense about how he was an ex wrestler that went into retirement because he broke his leg.
Anyways I stopped tracking these dudes because targem is keeping these guys around to inflate the market so why would they ban their cash cows. Here is where they stand now in terms of patches at the moment with just about all of them being earned with in a 3 to 4 month span. Olatheworlds account was only created in July month for crying out loud and got more patches than 99.9% of all crossout veterans.
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Edit: I wouldn’t say inflate because that is really not the effect it is having on the market but they are making the market move much more inventory at a faster rate. The prices will stay more or less the same but much more items are being moved. Dev’s knows they are using home cooked hacked software to game the market but they are making them money which is why nothing is being done.