Beware of new market bot on pc!

Go study economics.

I can’t spend time teaching a class in a game forum. You obviously don’t understand how it works.

But, I’m not really interested in this topic.
I already know how it works.

Your both right and your both wrong. The items that are craftable will still be attainable so no money injection is needed but any items that are either pack items or require a pack item to craft will need a money injection. One part of the market is free while the other part needs to be payed for. So if everyone suddenly stopped putting money into the game craftable items like the humpback will not disappear but pack items like the catallina will. The economy will not vanish but will dwindle to a state comparable to the usa suddenly turning into a country like etheopia. There will still be coin as long as the devs injects little baby amounts in freebie packs and stuff but everyone will have to work for themselves and make their own items if you get what I mean. It will be every person for themselves having to go farm and forage their own food and I am comparing food to in game items in the game. Not that the food will disappear but you will have to make it and find it yourself and your choices will be very limited.

After all that explanation and examples, I have no idea why some people still think the game needed coins to work. Coins is but a digital set of in game resource which is no different to other resources aside from players can exchange them once with real money. The game can credit each account with any amount of coins at anytime. That credit, doesn’t need anything to back up because it is a set of 1s and 0s. It never can run out.
Unlike a currency in the real world, it doesn’t need anything to back it up. I know people will start thinking about digital currency. It is not the same because digital currency in the real world is equal to the paper form of their counter part. They are meant to back by the trusting party(country).

Item or goods in game again are but a set of digital in game resource. All the game needed to do when someone craft an item, is to change the resources number to an item in that account. When a player sell an item to another player. The game simply delete an item from the seller, credit the seller with correct amount of coins, At the same time, credit the buyer with the same item and delete the amount of coins buyer willing to pay. The game is not rely on any of them TAX coins as up keeps.

When players have a greater number of coins, they are willing to pay higher prices for items. When prices are high, then players will be unwilling to sell cheap. Thus, when BPs were giving lots of Coins for extra levels and many players got so many coins for only 10.00, we saw an immediate rise in prices. So, a player who did not buy the BP and score all those Coins for extra levels now has to farm more Resources for an Item they desired that was cheaper 7 days ago. That is called Inflation and every time you add coins you cause Inflation. When you remove Coins, you fight Inflation. The tax removes Coins on every Sale. Workbench Rent removes Coins.

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Thank you. 100%

I didn’t want to have to type all of that out.

:wink:

What you have said is on each account. The coins removed is on the players own account. It has nothing to do with the total amount of coins added together on the game market.

As I have said. The game market is a simulation of real economy. Players willingness to use coins(a game resource) would depend on what is on offer and the amount of coins and other resources they have, also how busy the game is with active players. Oh yeah, amount of packs players bought at the time. The game does not have a set amount of coins nor items. It is changes every time player log on and off. The amount of players active also has an affect on the market. Items would usually cost more when more people trading the same item.

Look, think what you like because it doesn’t bother me. If you guys think you know it all and I have no idea what I am talk about, so be it. Again it doesn’t bother me. But, so far “Go study economics”, or the “food” example doesn’t fit with the game market system.
As far as I know the free game coins with exchanged from rewards are same as the ones exchanged with real money. In fact, once you have used the coins in game, you can NOT get refund for it.
The game market prices depend on the total amount of coins from players have is NOT true, because NOT all players are active all the time. Understand this then you should understand the game market doesn’t need “coin sink”.


Anyways, enough is enough. Type all this take me off times I can use for other things. I have game less for a year as I started badminton again. Even went to table tennis after 44 years off the game. I do smell like a pig more too. Do have a good day, sir!!

Love you guys, but I gotta say this has been the most pedantic debate I’ve read on here in a long time. :man_shrugging:

In the end, which ever side wins, does this really matter at all? :man_shrugging:

I’d rather y’all spend your time making that Excel spreadsheet that ranks parts based on mass/durability/resistances/size so I can more efficiently build. :wink:

classic thread putting the weirdness here on full display.

nobler puts in some effort to track down some guy who by the looks of it is using a script. could be noblers story doesnt check out, but nobody even questions it.

you just resort to downplaying it or stating it could just be some enthusastic player who likes to play a lot. thats fucking stupid tbh.

especially chopchop loves to jump on every thread where its about market and cheating only to repeat the “nothing to see here guys” line. why?

why do you so feverishly ignore things that could make the devs look bad for things theyre handling poorly? it really smells like ccp logic to me.

i mean what have you done in this thread? ignore downplay, deny ops findings to then give the same shaky explanation of the game economics which doesnt even matter in this topic.

seems an awful lot like purposeful derailment. pretty nasty tbh.

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In 6 months time he will most likely be over 1000 epic patches plus 300 legendary patches and people will still be doubting it coming up with the most far fetched explanations you ever heard. I don’t mind mind people giving their 2 cents on a topic but when they goes on all day without even reading or completely disregarding the most important aspects of the full thread, you know it really gets in under my skin.

It’s because you where giving the correct answer to this issue in the first few reply’s of this thread.

Everything after that is boredom.

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Why I kept my videos short and is also why I uploaded videos in the first place for those with short attention spans like myself and they all have been updated in the original post. Sometimes facts are boring when there is a lot of them but there is a lot of facts to read so I think I did a good job of getting it all out there despite the attempts at derailment from other users. People that don’t want to read this thread can just simply watch the videos because the ones getting involved in this thread didn’t even take the time to watch any of them and are there for commenting with biases and applying there opinions in the wrong areas on a very complicated subject matter with lots of layers that I tried to keep simplified as much as possible. I know one of the users that went on and on with multiple posts don’t even have a epic patch with no epics in his collection and he thinks he knows it all applying his all seeing wisdom about the market and the other user that was going on and on didn’t even play the game within the last 30 days but not naming no names. One of the users spreading his lifelong experience about the market and bloating/derailing the thread is only on rockefeller 2 lol, with users like that coming around no wonders the thread got bloated and boring.

lol…ccp logic??

Some people… :joy: :joy:…everything has to be political…look at what kind of world we are at now!!

This is very true.

After the first or second report, it is on the devs hand. If they feel action needed to be taken, it would be taken , no?

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'so why is everyone making this thread…

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I am updating once a month. Next report is September 1st and report after that will be October 1st so get used to it. As long as this market bot is still operating there will be new evidence to present so you will get new updates as a result.

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My 2 cents.
I have no doubt Nobler is right in his assumptions.
I also have no doubt the devs will do anything about it.
In fact, I wouldn’t doubt that bot is programmed by them to raise prices, thereby encouraging more real money to enter the game. I wouldn’t doubt there are hundreds of them.

Alas, I don’t really care… I mean, I guess I do, but there’s nothing I can do about it, and I have little faith anything will change.

So… carry on…

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It is a actual real player but I guess the devs just see this player as a useful idiot to drive prices and move more inventory so they just leaving him alone with his automatic market script and not doing anything about it.

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I feel like the general games economy is in a sad situation right now.

Boting is boting and it should be baned, i dont care on which part of the game it is.

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Crossout Market Bot Mafia Ring Discovered!!!. Market bot part 5
Turns out the market bot discussed in my previous videos actually got an accomplice. Whither they are one and the same I am not sure but the scale of the operation is much worst than I previously thought.