Just make them explode a little after impact and improve the old perk of doing the collision damage when driven into on the ground a little. It could easily pass for a alternative phoenix type of weapon like that. Then it’s just playing with the blast damage to key it in to where it needs to be. The code already exists, so it wouldn’t take a huge effort for the devs to move it over.
it would be soo much more fun if they weren’t just upgraded phoenix though with all the same problems those guns have that make them useless in pvp
would honestly prefer they motorize the saw and have them rip at builds
Devs have the ability to change the model. You want changes but insist that other things can’t be changed?
The Perk can be changed, in fact, I suggested quite a few changes that would basically make it a different weapon altogether. One that would hurt any hover that ran over it or it was shot under.
how does it make it worse?
Just because my suggestion does not fit your “ideal” version of the ripper does not invalidate my suggestion.
My suggestions would do that.
Truth.
I just like the idea of being able to toss a mine at a fair distance. They could get rid of the forced delay fuse and let the user detonate them, that would get rid of some of the phoenix issues.
Just harder to make believable i.e. how does it hold itself on to do the sawing…
…and bringing a 17k build into patrol to only nerf the team because your 17k build has 3 useless rippers on it isn’t exactly fun for everyone else just trying to grind their dailies as fast as possible.
My suggestion is to either shelve the stupid things until they’re buffed or sell them for something actually useful. On PC, they’re bizarrely expensive on the market, so you could sell those 3 and get yourself 3 porcs or scorpions.
To exemplify how useless those things are, when we played together & you were 2nd from the bottom & I got MVP, I was in a 9.5k Mace build. Maces are better than rippers.
Absolute trash… cool looking trash, but trash.
why are you getting soo salty over patrol, its bot mode and if you feel it nerfs you soo much just requeue theres plenty of other players running relics and high damage weapons like destructors to make up for my low damage
also the reason i did soo poorly that match was because i got hit by every single bot in the match at the exact same time, nobody surviving that let alone scoring high
He did word some of his post harshly, BUT the advice to shelf them or sale them is solid advise.
That weapon is not helping anyone, until they are changed in some way.
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i mean theyre not terrible against AI as the bots don’t have space armour and some very easy to get to generators and ammo boxes, they do about 300 damage with a bad hit and 900 + extra hitting cabins directly. this doesnt work in pvp due to spaced armour makes you only do a maximum of 18 damage with 9 saws but most of the time the damage can be as low as 1
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Maybe after the cannon change this will be a little different. I know the cannon change will not affect rippers, but some of the other meta changes might make them better.
The way people armor things might change a lot after the patch.
I am with you that they need a buff.
Rippers are a stupid weapon that should be knocked down to special rarity. They launch blades made for wood ffs. The concept planning for the stuff in this game is so inconsistent and reality defying its no wonder this game has such a tiny playerbase. I cannot stand it when I think about it. A game this silly shouldn’t have gritty graphics and crisp realistic art design. We got 2 chainsaws, a wood cutting saw, and a crop harvester for melee weapons, but not a single cutter you would see used in a machine shop or in the mining industry.
That said Rippers are woefully underpowered as a relic, and their only use is framing leviathans, which are a very questionable thing to have in CW.
I think they should lodge in parts and cause damage to parts when the player with them attached moves his guns or wheels while there are blades lodged in those parts. Maybe they can have a weak explosion as well when they expire. With the projectile mechanics changing spaced armor won’t matter, if the devs actually follow through and completely remove the 2m pen limitation.
We 100% used borer’s when I worked for Kinross. (Gold mining) they looked more like the cerebus cabin though.
lmao, bullied out of cw, bullied out of pvp only to become the one and only true patrol hero, what a legend! lots of sweaty games against frank and emma, gg wp.
its all he has left at this point, he is the true patrol king. and dont you dare showing your face in awakening, i hear hes a queen there.
I did not mean it to be salty. I don’t know how to relate what I’m saying without it sounding that way. That’s a failing on my part.
You have what is widely thought of as the most trash weapon in the game and are trying to make it work. I’m not saying you’re a bad player at all, I have no idea. That is a terrible weapon. If you were able to take that weapon into anything and make it work, that would make you the best player in the game in my opinion. I have never seen the ripper used successfully.
I mean, you can vent about it, and that’s fine. They have buffed that weapon at least twice if I remember correctly, and it is still the worst weapon in the game. I doubt it will ever be good.
Trying to make it work is just going to frustrate you. My comments aren’t meant to criticize or judge, just try to help you enjoy the game. If you’re trying to win and trying to do that with rippers, I have bad news for you.
Outside of that, I think my previous advice no matter how poorly delivered is solid. Shelve them or sell them.
I refuse , I will just keep using it and hopefully the development team receive even complains and data to finally overhaul this piece of crap weapon ?
can you explain to me… if the weapons garbage then why is it 47k? its literally the second most expensive relic out there under scorpions. if the weapon is that bad then shouldnt it be at like 35k or around that?
yeesh chill out dude. i dont think they are that bad. im going to be making rippers my next relic weapon to get. i think they would be fun in raids.
go chop down a few trees then, we need more fire wood! xD
yeah i find this funny. mostly the harvester i find hilarious as a melee weapon.
i did state above they should have a damage threshold that way they can pierce through spaced armor like they plan on doing with cannons. that or momentum, their blades can cut through armor until they run out of damage then stop and imbed themselves in the vehicle only exception being the cabin. youd think a disc of blades would do more or have a ton more momentum especially on hovers when hitting them.
Good question. On PC, it costs about the same as everything else on that rarity. I can only imagine it is because it is such a cool design in theory. When they announced it, I thought that would be the one I would want… nope!
If you do that, and you are able to be successful with it, please post video of it. I don’t mean that as a challenge, but I have literally never seen it used successfully.
Porcupines aside, none of the relics really look that unique to me except for the ripper. I would love for it to be a viable weapon. The more variety the game has, the better. So, yeah, if you are ever able to get good with it, teach us! LOL
i want to try but the only issue is the cost. its going to take me a very very long time to get even 1 of them. id have to sell off a large portion of my weapons to buy one and… i really dont want to… 
i wish i could. id want 3 of them but sadly the cost of them is the only thing keeping me away. might take me years to buy them and i dont want to sell my other relics just to buy them.
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Maybe they should be like blockchains, and do extra damage to pass through parts? Seems like they should be able to slice through buggy frames and keep going.
Would give them a way to be useful at high PS, without being OP at lower PS.
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Because it is THE BEST weapon to get Leviathan’s in clan wars to target. Meaning you and your team mates are not taking damage from the levi.
Being the best weapon for dumb AI does not make it a good weapon for all situations. (I don’t have these. so this is what I have heard)
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Ah… I had forgotten about that “feature.” That explains a ton!