‘or…maybe they are all playing at the same time you are’?
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Here is a survey for yea and it is stareing you straight in the face everytime your scrolling thru the market. Look at how many buy and sell offers there are on items. Did they go drastically up? the population is more or less what it always was. Ill show you a screen shot from 2018 when I first started playing. Look up old market footage compared to now and you will see that the average amount of buy and sell orders is more like half of what it used to be
Here is a very old screenshot taken from 2018
Now here is 3 screenshots with some of the same above items that was just taken
You notice something, all the buy and sell orders have gone down. If there were more people playing you would think there be more people wanting to buy items just to even play the game but it is the opposite. If you want to get the figures for xbox just look up some old xbox footage on youtube and compared it to now and the results will probably be similar.
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Not to me sir. This is not my reality, sorry it is yours.
Like I said - Xbox is awesome.
PC XO… not so much.
This will be a common theme.
Not really, seems like there is maybe a half to a third third of players on xbox compared to pc. Here is proof.
Here is a screenshot I took from some ones youtube channel who plays xbox compared to pc
here is pc screenshot of copper
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It is not proof of anything lol, and what are you trying to prove exactly? This does not make me like the game any less and I know for a fact it is better now then it was even 2 years ago.
Are you trying to prove that I’m not having a great experience playing that game? You can’t. I’m having a blast.
Fast ques + good market + fun times = good for me.
I’m not trying to prove your not having a great experience but what I am proving is that console got no more than half the playerbase pc does. Take of that what you will. Show me a screen shot of the pyres I am willing to bet it prob got roughly half the buy/sell orders that pc does. It is about 89 on pc so I am willing to bet there is prob 40-50 orders on console. The buy /sell orders on the market is a solid indicator of the overall population. If you had a million players you really think that those buy/sell offers would be in the double digits? no it wouldn’t it would be in the 4 or 5 digits range.
This poll with the console/pc user % seems about right too
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To be fair, really thriving game would have thousands of sell/buy orders, if not tens of thousands.
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The crossout population was always wavy anyways. It goes up and down and up and down but usually up during the northern hemisphere winter season is when the player base has a tendency to be up for the most part which is now the new season we are approaching. One thing that I can tell you for certain is that the player count is still more or less what it always was, there is no super mass exodus or super crazy gain either it is within the norm of 40% decrease or increase from peak to bottom and it has been that way since the game released.
Back in the days when the steam charts use to say 2000 to 4000 average players online it was in fact actually more like 6000 to 9000 players that was playing and you can prove that just by looking thru old footage of buy/sell orders as a good indicator of that being the actual case and it is still roughly the same on average just a little less.
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Of course. But Gaijin’s abortion of a client never shows any numbers of their playerbase so we may never find the truth.
Your not saying anything new.
This is the same old song and dance for years.
Xbox - just like PC - has a greater population then it did the first 4 years.
These are facts.
So if PC has more then they did before and Xbox “still” has half then both platforms have increased.
Thank you for your info. It was very helpful.
Some people are trying to get hired in one of those open positions so they have to look good in the eyes of the employer, between flagging old posts
But this game loses players all the time and then new ones come in get tired and so the cycle repeats itself very few stick around for very long
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And that’s what I stated, games have turn over rates
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Yes they do. Good thing for XO we are now in a state of growth. And next week it can be different.
Free to play models don’t want people staying around for years.
The actual facts are is that the population is about the same as it always was, it is actually on the lower end at the moment of the increase decrease cycle that crossout always had so you might see an marginal uptick which is nothing to get excited about and it has always been that way but your taking that usual little uptick that normally occurs every 6 months and taking it as the second coming of christ, get the bananas out of your ears.
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Can you show me where these facts comes form?
And honestly I’m more inclined to believe the population is pretty much the same, I just don’t have data to support that.
And if it is the same, then they have plenty of money to keep it running. They have done it this long and we have double the money making things in game then the first 4 years.
I bet that even with the same number of people they making double now.
I provided you really good circumstantial evidence in all the screen shots I posted above that the population is more or less the same. The dev’s ain’t gonna say how many people are playing the game so you aint gonna get the 100% facts but there is plenty of rock solid indicators you can use to get an idea about what the population is which like I said looking up the various buy/sell orders on items, it is that simple no rocket science involved. If the population double you would get a sharp increase for buy/sell orders on stuff, you wont get an exact count but you can get a kind of rough idea about how many people are playing. You can narrow it down within a certain range but not the exact figure.
Not really, let’s argue that one in court.
I honestly don’t have a dog in this fight. It don’t mater to me one way or the other. You might be right, who knows. It don’t affect my game play.
Entertaining conversation, none the less.
PC gameplay is just fine. There is little difference (its easier to aim on pc).
They need a market corridor reset coupled with a rework. It is still possible to use the market and earn coin, it is at a lower rate. This is the part that is different on PC. This still does not effect gameplay, it effects what is in individual inventories.
I will point out again and again, F2P games such as this only need 5-10k players to be EXTREMELY profitable.
Steam survey doesn’t even encompass half the PC player base. It is foolish to think the majority of PC players willingly join an enclosed eco-system. Most of us are PC players because we do not want to be locked into an eco-system. Just sayin.
Then there are PS4 and 5 players, one, onex, series S and series X players… on top of that.
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I’m sure it is fine. The market stuff ruins it for me personally. I want to be able to earn gear on the market, without the need to buy packs unless I want to.
But a few people here on PC cry like it’s the end of the world, so I can only assume (at least for them) that the PC experience sucks.
But I’m going to guess it’s a bigger issue for these folks and not just the game itself.