How is our game REALLY doing - a possibility

It seriously is doing way better then the first 4 years, period. If they can make it through their first 4 years with less players then we have now then they can make it now.

My reality is not yours:

  1. The rating on Xbox is still very high.
  2. I get about 30sec. PvP que times when I play US primetime.
  3. I get pretty much instant que matches for Confrontations
  4. I make the same coins I did on the market ever week (about 10k+)
  5. I make more badges then I ever made
  6. the game has 100 times more things for me to play with then year one.

One thing I can say for 100% is that ā€œMYā€ XO game experience is going awesome.

PC is just not the place to be for this game. Thatā€™s going to be a common forum theme.

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They donā€™t need to be the best game to keep running. Canā€™t really compair it to other games.

my queue can be less than that, donā€™t mean nothing. The player base is still within the average norm of 40%. People ainā€™t leaving in super mass droves it ainā€™t like the population halved so it be hard to notice, crossout always had kind of a low but stable population but it is lower than usual by crossout standards but you really need a super high jump or super low drop to visually notice it. 30 seconds ainā€™t really that great either.

Correct! Because we are gaining.(current 30day numbers as of this post)

Also, look at the first 4+ years numbers.
No one is counting the sever closure bump as a gain.

4% gain still keeps it at the 4th lowest month on record, ainā€™t no where to go but up because count is that low.

From September 2016 to December 2022 the highest the population ever was in a single month was 4914 average on steam. (It only did this one month - most the other months are muc lower then this) that represents the first 4+ years of the game.)

We are now at 6793 average

These are facts.

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Yes, but it was about three months ago. And it was only 5-6 different parts.

And the thing is, they are either paid with gold or with money only.

And neither is available for some decoration.

Well, that makes two. Thatā€™s not really a lot.

rough monkey when it gets back to 9000-10000 average players like it was in january than you can start rubbing the insane player count increase non sense in our faces but it is miles and miles away from reaching anywhere close to that.

When you stop counting the server closer and get back to reality you will realize that as a company these guys are making double now.

They just announced a massive hiring of designers.

Thatā€™s good enough for me man.

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rough monkey that 4914 average at the peak was actually around 14 000 players. The population was always in that area but they just werenā€™t being counted on steam charts but whatever happened in january was more akin to the true player count than what was being counted before. Crossout use to be in the top 20 on freetoplay games in is now at 67 sitting behind a pile of shovel ware indie games that I never heard of.

Fast queue times is a good metric of how the game is doing. Iā€™ve been playing it long enough to know that things have improved greatly over the years, and Iā€™ve seen no sign of queue times getting worse recently.

Now itā€™s true that console went down to 6v6 PVP, but that was quite a while ago, and any impact that had has been absorbed by now.

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Did you do a survey of your queue times with a stopwatch and keep track of it. Not very convincing. Go the extra mile and keep track of it but there is no hard data involved. It is like trying to guess how many jelly beans are in a jar with one having 200 jelly beans and the other having 230 jelly beans.

I get very impatient if I have to wait longer than a minute. That used to be relatively common, and itā€™s not now.
However, I will say that the wait times for brawls are bad, and have been for a long time.

Did you do a survey of all the corporate data for this game?

All this stuff (on both sides) is here say at best.

If I have fast que times and the charts say the game is going up. Then thatā€™s about all I can judge it on.

Not some dude on the forum.

ā€˜orā€¦maybe they are all playing at the same time you areā€™?

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Here is a survey for yea and it is stareing you straight in the face everytime your scrolling thru the market. Look at how many buy and sell offers there are on items. Did they go drastically up? the population is more or less what it always was. Ill show you a screen shot from 2018 when I first started playing. Look up old market footage compared to now and you will see that the average amount of buy and sell orders is more like half of what it used to be
Here is a very old screenshot taken from 2018


Now here is 3 screenshots with some of the same above items that was just taken




You notice something, all the buy and sell orders have gone down. If there were more people playing you would think there be more people wanting to buy items just to even play the game but it is the opposite. If you want to get the figures for xbox just look up some old xbox footage on youtube and compared it to now and the results will probably be similar.

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Not to me sir. This is not my reality, sorry it is yours.

Like I said - Xbox is awesome.

PC XOā€¦ not so much.

This will be a common theme.

Not really, seems like there is maybe a half to a third third of players on xbox compared to pc. Here is proof.
Here is a screenshot I took from some ones youtube channel who plays xbox compared to pc


here is pc screenshot of copper

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It is not proof of anything lol, and what are you trying to prove exactly? This does not make me like the game any less and I know for a fact it is better now then it was even 2 years ago.

Are you trying to prove that Iā€™m not having a great experience playing that game? You canā€™t. Iā€™m having a blast.

Fast ques + good market + fun times = good for me.

Iā€™m not trying to prove your not having a great experience but what I am proving is that console got no more than half the playerbase pc does. Take of that what you will. Show me a screen shot of the pyres I am willing to bet it prob got roughly half the buy/sell orders that pc does. It is about 89 on pc so I am willing to bet there is prob 40-50 orders on console. The buy /sell orders on the market is a solid indicator of the overall population. If you had a million players you really think that those buy/sell offers would be in the double digits? no it wouldnā€™t it would be in the 4 or 5 digits range.
This poll with the console/pc user % seems about right too

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