I feel like I had a week of being able to abuse Yeti before every match suddenly had several players running a verifier.
Not complaining: yeti would be too strong without some counters.
Sometimes I run a verifier, itās still broken af
I would have thought you would love using it.
But it is hard to fit into smaller builds.
You dont play high PS, correct? Most heavy breaker builds run no cloak. The FIN gives them the speed to keep up with other builds and the perk makes them difficult to strip.
The YETI is strong but there are tools to deal with that, like others have suggested.
While yes, the verifier is good, the Oculus is cheaper. If you can afford a verifier, go for it. But I was trying to show a VERY easy way to counter cloaks (Imma grab me a verifier, donāt have one yet).
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dog builds infested everything and are dominating. as i said in the previous post, to defeat a regular team of dogs you need meta builds and good teamwork / communication. dog builds are overpowered and there is no other way to put it
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Yes, and Iām guessing this is why your protests arenāt being heard too.
All Iām gonna say about it, is that reverse isnāt a good defense against the melee rush. Stop it. Spread the word.
Yeah Iām playing at 15k and itās all dogs with Yeti cloaks, Iām glad I can just out-drive them and shove rockets in their mouths. Itās way too OP to even be considered fair play, power creep engines let super heavy melee to drive at near top speeds while weighing like 20 tonnes and on top of it theyāre cloaked foreverā¦ no one with a working brain would ever say itās not a problem even with Verifiers etc.
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A team of dogs is by definition a meta, and so it is not surprising that the best way to beat them is to run a counter meta.
How exactly do you think things should work?
Is a single cannon player supposed to be able to take on a group of any build type?
Anyway, good teamwork beats any build in Crossout (assuming your team is running competitive builds). Yes, there is more melee currently than there has been for a bit, but so what? Is it really any worse to see less MGs and more melee?
True story.
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For me, the Gerrida Punisher Humpback spiders with 50 legs and a Pegasus engine was the worst meta in recent years. Those things went 70 kph, had instant acceleration, at least 5000 hp and firedog builds bounced off of them as if they were opposing magnets.
You had entire teams just sitting around and capping bases and being fat, regular spider stuff and you couldnāt win unless you had your own set.
I have 13 fused Gerridas with fused Humpback, fused Helios and all the trimmings and I donāt want that meta to come back.
Firedog meta is fun. You just drive around and burn stuff. The battles are over quickly, win lose or draw, so you get much more resources per hour by sending it.
Get yourself some Dracos or Hammerfalls and get in on it!
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Yeah, seems to me that itās a good thing that wheeled builds can compete at the top level.
Feels more like what the game was originally intended to be.
why should a completely skillless braindead build type be the absolute meta that is capable of beating any build or composition?
dog builds should be on par with other types of builds, not be capable of obliterating anything they encounter within seconds without having to even move the mouse.
on top of this the devs still want to buff dogs, even after giving it infinite infisibility and nerfing all other movement parts that could counter it
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this is such an immensely deluded thing to say
A) just because you donāt like melee doesnāt mean itās ābraindeadā
B) the nature of all close range builds mean they need to be able to do a lot of damage quickly, or they would have no chance at all.
C) just because you donāt know how to counter dogs doesnāt mean everyone else has the same issue with them. I am rarely killed by dogs, because I rarely play the builds that are easy for them to kill.
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The only time I loose playing melee is after the matchmaker buries me in thousands of points in power-score, which is exactly what it does (I wonder why). I MVP with nothing else as often, or as easily. They are generally cheap to buy and are the easiest builds to construct and operate by leaps and bounds. I presume this is why everybody is using them; they are easy mode. I thought that was pretty self-evident, myself.
What I found to be difficult to construct and operate were Hovers, and anything using cannons. I tip my hat to those kids who can make that work (I sure canāt)ā¦but Melee? No, that schit is simple, shot guns too, but not nearly as much as active melee. It couldnāt be more simple. I have no idea what would beā¦If they juiced up the drones again, I guess that would be.
It used to be more difficult to take that crap (melee) up into higher power-scores, because of how powerful the guns are up there, but I figure thatās not the case so much anymore.
Melee needs a nerf. I too think itās pretty lousy with over-powering melee out there right now. They chew up my teams in PVP like nothing else very routinely. They are quite clearly too much, and obviously are siphoning the fun out of the game for too many playersā¦and just because they might not be pwning my ass all of the time (sometimes, though), doesnāt obscure my sight of how outstandingly they demolish my entire team over and over, or reap the lionās share of kills for my team when they are on it (or I am using it), as well.
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So what is our ideal Crossout balance?
If we divide the build categories into close range, mid range, and long range, I think itās safe to say that we just went through a long period where mid range builds were the most commonly played in most PS ranges.
These days, I feel like most of my matches are a pretty even mix of the three categories. Mid range DPS is still probably more common than long or close range, at least at the PS ranges Iām playing.
I would estimate that maybe a quarter of the builds I see in PVP are close range, probably a third are mid range, and the rest long range.
I do think long range needs some buffs though. I would prefer they continue to tinker with projectiles, explosive damage, and penetration to make cannons and missiles more scary.
Easy things are weaker than harder to use/master things
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That sounds like a horrible idea to me.
If youāve got the skills to play a high difficulty weapon, you donāt need the game to hold your hand and give you extra damage.
New players in particular need some viable easy to learn weapons.
I think they need to make active melee more heavy, so they arenāt so quick and supported by so much armor, durability and speed, and fix regular tracks so they arenāt obsolete. Then I think the game would be in pretty tight shape.
I tried for months to sell my small tracks, then they fixed them and buffed the hell outta them while I was gone, and OMG they are awesome now. Too awesome? Probably.
I gave up trying to sell them and went ahead and made a build with them, and I canāt believe everybody isnāt abusing that schit (yet?). I love the drift. Itās better than racing wheels (probably shouldnāt be). I have a feeling they are too much as well, but nobody else seems to be catching on to how well they performā¦yet?
Maybe itās just me, and they suit my play-style too well. IDK. Thatās another build (small tracks and shot guns) that if the matchmaker doesnāt bury me several thousand points deep, Iāll dominate with it fairly easily.
On topic: This new cloak is probably too much as well, but IDK. I donāt play in that range, or encounter it, or have issues with it if I do. As far as I can tell, Iām either playing under it and donāt run into it, or am just not finding to be that problematic.
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