What’s the point having lances and boom sticks in the game, then?
Clearly high risk high reward doesn’t pay off, the bread and butter of lancers isn’t there anymore.
I mean you go in, you waste a bunch of lances and then what? what did you accomplished?
I end up better than him either way ( we won the game and i survived ) but i could lose also.
I took the points, my reward is guarantied either way and what about the other guy? he did nothing.
Lances has become high risk low reward
there is no point and there should be no point.
what could ever convince somebody to go through with an idea as horrible as onetap sticks in a pvp game? who wants shit like that
I got into lances for a while, and could periodically get MVPs with them, a drone, some passive melee, and strong coffee. That hasn’t happened since about Supercharged 2.0. I gave up on it.
I suppose I could still make a build with a full load of nothing but Boomsticks or Lances and be able to just smash that one guy (maybe, if I’m lucky) and then self-destruct. That is boring AF, but I guess it’s how they intend for us to use them?
I liked being able to take out that one devastating melee guy with the Booms, then being able to still contribute to the match with my drone, and passive melee. This is no longer the case, under the game’s new parameters. I can’t get it to work, anyway.
About that…
i’ve been taking head on all kinds of cannon builds, melee builds…lancer builds with ok, sometimes good results specially melee builds.
after the first time we colided i had all my drones it was after the second time i lost the remaining’s of my front
Head on or with it’s ass, the weak link s definitely the drones, but soon i will develop a new build with kings, and with tachi .
The formula isn’t that hard to follow, just add plows or other high durability with resistance properties and melee builds will have a tough time, specially if they are light builds
Oh theres a point and it sure aint got nothing to do with how many times i can point and click gud.
I dont really find shooting builds with guns fun. I find terrorizing the enemy fun. Guns bore me…clickty point pew pew…no thanks…u can have that… although i do morta every now and then i just dont use any guns so that is why booms have a point to me because they are chaotic fun and that is what i get off on. My point is to have fun and these do it for me.
You dont have to understand why someone likes a different challenge and type of weapon than you but you do have to deal with it… because the developers put that recipe of a death machine available and ready to be cooked up…if someone enjoys that meal that is.
95% of what i run are drone builds but my main everyday build is a 13 boom stealth machine with 68 secs of invisibilty on a Griffon cab. Im usually top 3 most games and even when my booms are gone i still ram people to death with blades for another kill or 2. No boom melee can be a challenge but its not that bad.
I see top players (who i mostly target) get frustrated and quit because i will single them out over and over. I dont always win or come out successful but i like to try to keep these people in check and not so full of themselves in this game and im willing to sacrifice my build to help my team win…and that is usually best accomplished by me going for the top players and hurting them bad. I care nothing for my score. I just want to bring chaos to their team and hurt their ability to survive.
What is funny to me is how i see players modify their tactics when they know im running a boom build. They get this defensive paranoia and i see them trying to spot me coming each round with backs against the wall lol…which is messing with their normal careless “no ones running booms” attitudes which would usually aid their game. Im adding a extra sense of danger that pew pews simply never will.
There are people that self destruct out of protest as soon as im in the server playing…even on my team at times! Lol…maybe they jyst too lazy to keep aware.
My new build ive been running removes a few booms and replaces them with a harvester. So im booming into them and then chewing them up. They dont always pop on impact with less booms but the harvester (attached to an averter) lets me do good death damage afterwards. I never run lances as they have bad stealth.
Im in the process right now of getting 2 upgraded harvesters so that should be fun to terrorize people with soon.
That is what I liked about jousting. There are no good counters, and nobody is safe. Who ever is demolishing your team the worst is the ideal target. They are great for disrupting and discouraging the META.
At least that’s the way it was. I don’t think they work that great anymore, and I definitely think the Lancelots, in particular, need a buff…maybe they need their own battle pass with fresh CKs for the Aggressor, Lances, and Booms, a cloaking device CK that makes you vanish into a scattering murder of crows, Pointy new bumpers, Legendary short-range launchable lances; “Javelins,” and a legendary cab that buffs acceleration…or not.
It was nice of them to stiffen the Boom Sticks. That helped. I thought they were ridiculous, like party noodles, before.
why would lances need a buff, they already onetap anything and there is no counter. the best buff lances can get is to be deleted from the game because theyre a shit mechanic
Last time I used them they didn’t. People were recently encouraged to load up on explosives though, and have been for a while now, with all the new generators and now ammo packs, so maybe that’s changed things since last time I ran Lances. I thought they were inferior to Booms after they nerfed them, and no longer were suitable for their power-score…plus other reasons.
Maybe it’s time for me to revisit jousting? I liked it, but it stopped being effective, and also, and more importantly, the match maker would put me in eternal queues anytime I used a lancer build. IDK why, but it was reliable to get super long, to eternal, queues anytime I geared up for that sport.
No they don’t, they one tap jack shit , and the problem is just that, that’s the point of this topic.
I took head on the same lancer…twice, and with a medium build. It’s not the first time nor will be the second or third time i do this. We collide almost dead centre.
I should be vaporized on contact and he should be twitching in the field
I will have the upper hand all the time and the build i use to do this it’s a drone build.
I mean, you have to agree that’s a bit ridiculous that a drone build can beat a lancer in it’s own game.
That should had not happened, but it’s happening every time i do this
And before lancers could take out a heavy brick like the one i posted ( first screenshot ).
I remember seeing dogs with lances mounted in a way where they could vaporizes 2 or 3 builds per game, now the ones i see they put all the “eggs in the same basket” and still it’s not enough
it makes sense that a drone build is tanker than a standard build. and regardless a weapon that onetaps most builds is garbage to play against and should be deleted because its an objectively bad game mechanic for a game like crossout
are you forgetting the problems these things added into the game long ago? i would be in a pvp match when all of a sudden some ass clown comes out of nowhere all cloaked up and one shots me and like 4 other team mates with those god forsaken things. even if pvp has changed now from back in the day it would still be a major annoyance to be killed by these stupid things. especially since the other mode has infinite respawns. id rather not have a team mate run into someone one shotting them, then running into someone else and blowing them up along with possibly a third person, then SDing, rinse and repeat the entire match.
boom sticks and lancelots were a major pain to deal with back then and i for one am happy they been nerfed so hard.
ok so you want to get killed in a pvp match right off the bat and get no reward from dying right away from some ass hat running a cloak and just running into you forcing you to get no rewards and no score in the end? yeah, real fun.
oh you wouldnt be saying that back then when these things were not nerfed.
no.
exactly my point and why these things should not be buffed. no thanks.
its to bad drones are useless in pve.
they dont need a buff. do you remember back years ago how broken and frustrating they were to deal with? lances were downright broken. i come across to many people running them and being pains in the asses and i suffered to many pvp matches where i was one shotted by those god forsaken things and got no reward.
the point of lances is to hit the enemy in the weakest part of their build, going head on wont do jack shit if they have armor out the ass.
yeah, my build is a bit beefier than the usual… and i say this a bit frustrated cause it only can take so much…if the rest of the average made as beefier as mine. Some metas wouldn’t exist.
Lancers seems fun, that’s why i’m preparing to do a minelayer, tanky as hell with no weapons (weak spots ) i’m planing to do a tachi build also.
Lances seems to be no joy.
People that complain about dieing by a certain weapon seem afraid to me. Maybe afraid they dont have what it takes to handle the pressure of dealing with that type of gameplay.
I think a real player handles whatever is thrown at them and deals with it like every other player does. Im certainly not afraid of booms or lances.
if you have cannons youre done, and if you have machine guns then you cant spray in a circle to reveal the invisible lance build because you have limited ammo. its a shit mechanic you cant defend against
The problem with buffing lances is that they obviously do not want the only lance gameplay back, which kinda sucks because honestly even at their best it did not feel that cheesy, sure it insta-deletes a single build but usually just 1 build, but if they don’t get buffed nobody will use them as any form of support weapon
I’d personally solve the issue by turning it into 100% support weapon (supporting other weapons on the build), with an added perk where “The less overall lances you have the more damage they do” so cars running all lances would not be as effective, but when there’s carts that have something like 2 lances attached would do enough damage so that it would be a nice addition to a buuild
This could also work on making only-lance cars better, without making it an instant problem, where the less lances left the more damage you do, so you’d have some more effectiveness with lance cars because it’d be easier to get at least 1 kill and maybe do some damage to another car
what pressure? the pressure of dealing with some clown who goes invisible and rams into someone for a one shot? i have tried to fight lance builds before and some make builds that are stupid fast and ram into you so fast theres nothing you can do. even if you fight back you still have a bunch of lances to take off or theyll one shot you. with cabins like griffon which masks your signal on radars and things like the bullet limit these weapons would just be straight up unfair. we pretty much have to run explosives on our cars as is so lances have a chance to hit explodey bits to. theres even builds that cant defend themselves from lances to, take the cannon builds for example, reloading weapons suffer from that because alot of them have a very long reload time.
also i tried fighting lances, i could take off 1 or 2 lances before they just one shot me. they claim to have not alot of hp but they have a very small box to hit and id rather not see some flaming shit stick user coming at me with that stupid clown horn laughing like the absolute asshole he is while he takes out 2 or 3 more of my team mates. no fricken thanks.
back then you could delete 3 to 5 people with lances depending where and how you hit them.
exactly my point. now that all weapons dont have unlimited ammo anymore it would be alot harder to fend off enemies like lancers.
Well, I guess that settles it. Lancelots it is then. I’ve got the boom-sticks already, but after reading through this thread, I feel like I need to find higher PS victims. I really don’t think Lancelots are worthy of the fear they seem to have generated, but I guess I’ll find out.
I hope six Lances are enough. That’s all I can afford, and even then, I’m going to have to sell some stuff. I’m not sure six is enough, even if I get all my perks in a row.
