Morta and Lucifer weapons are crap.In pvp, I hit the opponent with morta many times, but their weapons do not disappear.The opponent turns and shatters the weapons with a single shot.Fix the damage of these weapons properly, they are not good for shit.Even when I reload the fastest with Morta, the weapon is useless…Same with Lucifer.I fire a rocket at an opponent with Lucifer, but one of his weapons does not disintegrate. He turns and shoots at me, and my weapon is instantly destroyed. Is such nonsense possible?Both weapons are terrible. Shotgun or machine gun durability is low, I shoot with morta or lucifer, it does not break, the opponent turns and breaks the weapons with a single shot. I fired, what happened?Nothing breaks even if I hit the opponent’s weapons Lucifer or Mortal…
You just summarized the story of my Crossout career. 
LMBO I have 
buyers remorse for picking up a second fused luci Oh well, One could only hope those magnificent Devs will give it a well deserved buff.
The Morta, I have little good to say ATM but I have have been diligently using both weapons in hopes to find that one sweet spot that actually makes them perform well. Morta, support only both are easily taken out with that enormous hit box & low HP.
They both sure put on one heck of a light show though…
Everyone has a shotgun and a machine gun. All weapons other than these 2 types of weapons are garbage. They should do high damage to morta. The reload time is long. If you shorten the time, you cannot put other modules. There is no energy left. And the weapon size is unnecessarily very large. It becomes an easy target. Many weapons are like this. For example, there are 2 heathers. Weapons are easy targets, you cannot do anything to your opponents from close range. Even if you hit with full accuracy, nothing happens to your opponent. It is hard to hit with full accuracy. How many times can we hit with full accuracy? You shoot a guy comes and shoots you with a machine gun, even his weapons stop even if you hit with full accuracy. Some weapons are ridiculously large, some are ridiculously small. You hit a guy with a machine gun with a rocket, nothing happens to an opponent who uses a shotgun, but we shoot the weapons that we think have high damage, nothing happens. The opponent comes and destroys you in 2 seconds with a shogun or machine gun. It’s ridiculous, why do they add new weapons, then there is no need for new weapons. Every weapon has advantages and disadvantages, but most weapons are just empty. image.it is of no use. don’t waste your time and money on anything. use 4 arbiters or shotguns. all the other weapon types are of no use.
if you think thats bad try a bot with precision accuracy that can hit a tylenol from across the country. bots also aim for your weapons to and its such bullcrap because they NEVER MISS.
i do agree though that alot of weapons in the game have low hp, especially the ones with bigger hitboxes. alot of weapons you cant even take into pvp because once a mg or a shotgun user sees your giant skyscraper weapon they will relentlessly stalk you like a kid hitting the jackpot on halloween. this happened when i was testing out the quasar, soon as one person saw me it was over, they just came right for me every time.
alos of weapons also dont seem to have the punch that they should. the morta should be a better weapon then what it is. i am unsure how much damage it actually does to parts though as it is divided upon all the parts hit. it can also act as a shield but… the shield, imo, moves to fast to actually be a shield and is to small to make a difference.
the lucifer is just weak in general. it has a stupidly small ammo count and has a VERY long reload time. it just seems that alot of reloading weapons they release are meant to be with the hadron, the reason is they have such a stupidly long reload time that its impossible to run them otherwise.
if you want an example of this look at the jotuns. they have a ridiculously long reload time. fuzes have a long reload time but they dont get the bonus from the hadron. (30 second reload time for the fuzes) the lucifer also has a long reload time to. idk why weapons have such insanely long reload times. i mean yeah i dont want the reload times to be instant but still… its a bit of a problem when things that are supposed to be powerful are outclassed by things like mgs and shotguns.
no they dont 
yes they actually do. ive had scorpion bots aim for my weapons multiple times before and i can visibly see them aiming for my weapons especially when they are big like spikes. its not often that they do it but it does actually happen.
theyll even aim for my smaller weapons like a singular arbiter before moving onto my cabin after taking it clean off… without missing mind you…
If bots targeted weapons with their perfect aimbot and secret wallhack, the game would be over for human players.
Keep in mind there are also human players with bot names pretending to be bots.
i play solely pve and patrol vs ai so there are no pvp players in that mode. i have come across bots that to indeed aim for your weapons. i am very annoyed though at how stupidly accurate the bots can be.
in raids bots DO aim for your weapons, especially the bots that use auroras.
morta is “crap in pvp” until it kills you in two hits
I use a Morta / Mars combo solely for its perk.
I agree, bots do target weapons.
luci needs a little more range or damage to justify it{s power score
Why do you think the weapons has to fall off if you hit the enemy with morta, it has huge sized impact making some damage on all affected parts. Do you want one shot them with a weapon has a huge sphare projectile like a full build…???
They aim to your cabin, Eighter your weapons are in front or next to your cabin, or your build is tilted or overturned when this happens. Sometimes the different elevation of terrain levels couse this as well.
do you play raids or pay attention to where bots aim?
nope, i witnessed this multiple times on other team mates as well. even when the enemy is right in front of me i see them aiming for my weapons. i see the gun physically aiming at my weapons. as soon as they take one off they aim for my cabin. most of the time they just go for my cabin outright but sometimes they go for one of my weapons. they will hard focus on that weapon till it comes off then go for my cabin.
Only for yours… Hahaha
wrong again. i see them aiming for weapons in raids to and not just mine but my other team mates (auroras are famous for this). in patrol vs ai they aim for weapons to and ive witnessed bots aiming for other bots weapons at times to.
Lucifers do seem weak and I’m not entirely sure what they could do to change that. Currently retchers can do everything they can but better.
Morta is about where it should be. Not everything is about stripping weapons. Morta is a support weapon that weakens/strips modules and/or lighter frames. Use it on fast builds with averter/omamori and Hertz, preferably with a reload cab.
maybe give it more ammo? its starting ammo is pathetic really…