Remove 4 mans from PVP

Ahem

The people telling you that you’re wrong have had his stance because they 100% take advantage of it, even when I played WoT year sago they had teams of 15 and squads of 5 and even they realized it was too much and lowered squads to a max of 3.

Squads should only fight squads, no random solos dragged into it, if they have a load of bots then who cares, they want a huge squad advantage they can deal with it.

The game should upgrade to 9v9 and squads of 3

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than play in squads :exploding_head: :exploding_head: :exploding_head:

Yep cry babies break games

Heres a thought: The occasions you manage to play with randoms and have 2 or more of you have a good game, send them a message to team up.

“Hey man, that was a sweet flank we made. Those 4 man squads are tough, but i think if we stick together, we can beat them. Wanna party up?”

Have some more good games, start a bromance, add them. Rinse and repeat until next thing you know, you have a plethora of new friends to play woth any given time youre on. Keep the inertia going and maybe you guys start a clan of your own. Or you get invited into the clan theyre in.

Crying in game, in the forums, to anyone and everyone within earshot, is just that: Crying.

DO something about it.

CWs are 4v4 and that alone ensures that 4 man squads in PvP will Guaranteed be a thing til this game kicks the bucket.

Sure, ill concede and even agree that the matchmaker should try to put squads vs squads, but you should do something on your end as well.

And not to pile on a bit more negativity, but if you are bad at this game and never have good games to the point where no one would party up with you…ever…go play patrol or another game, or accept what it boils down to at that point: Youre the problem. The bell curve can be a real b!tch when youre staring up the slope, but someone has to man those positions by nature of this being a PvP game.

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hello ,
Another simple question : why in a 8v8 can t we make 8 player teams , since we always have to endure the constant mediocrity of half baked people with half baked build who can never more than 100 xp ?
this truly is detrimental to the overall game experience , and don ’ give me the “yOu CaN pLaY cLaN wArS !”
clan wars is not available all the time , so if we want to play we always have to endure this endless shitshow.

This game is on its own bullshit. :upside_down_face:

Yeah if everyone else is using hacks just go and use hacks too, right?

Not even close to the same thing.

One of these things is part of the game.

The other is against the TOS.

Simple.

“It’s in the game so it’s fair” is just another mantra people use as an excuse to themselves for abusing mechanics and such in games to gain an unfair advantage

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We’re all trying to gain an advantage: that’s literally the point of the game. You’re supposed to figure out novel ways of making your vehicle better than your opponent, and you’re supposed to be developing better strategies.
Grouping up is a viable strategy. I almost never play in a group, but you can still use teamwork to get an advantage just by supporting your teammates and bots.

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Yep. Here’s another thought. Combinations of players are more powerful than the sum of their parts. For example, when a Porc and a machine gun hover team up, they help each other. The hover can’t be bullied by shotguns because it is sitting in a minefield. The Porc can’t be bullied by machine gun hovers because it has its own machine guns looking out for it. Another great combination: Grounded Porc builds and shotguns. Shotgun builds tend to get into big messy traffic jam pile up fights. Those go much better if your shotgun guys are sitting in friendly Porc fire. In those situations, enemies just tend to disappear.

Another great combination: Firedogs and shotguns. Shotgun builds get bullied by mines, especially Porcs and Kapkans, they are bullied by fast hovers and they don’t have any free energy. Firedogs are vulnerable because they are fragile and if they miss latching onto a hover, the hover will win. Firedogs have a Flash to sweep a path with mines and have the free energy for a Doppler or an Interceptor to help the team. Shotguns take the focus off of the Firedog allowing it to do its thing and also provide backup in case the firedog runs into a wall and is evaded by a fast hover. Shotguns are also good at shooting hovers off of a hover build, allowing a fire dog to burn it as it is dipped over.

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Did you just call having friends a hack? -someone who plays 99% solo q

People complain that they get mopped up by 4 men stacks of godless OP Omamori hovers of sweat. Nerf the shit that needs to be nerfed, nobody’s going to complain about good players being good in balanced cars, Discord or not.

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I prefer the term dramatized

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Didn’t you know that playing with friends is abusing mechanics? :crazy_face:

I thought I heard everything on this forum. Guess not :rofl:

:100: this.

but I don’t have faith people will not complain :slight_smile: look at this thread.

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Hard to message and have voice comms with people who do not speak English and I do not speak German, or French, or Spanish, or Russian and I cannot read Cyrillic.

NA is almost dead, which forces me to play on EU or RU and I cannot communicate with almost everybody.

My friends list has players that have not logged in in over 500 days. My real-life friends have not logged in in over 2 years.

Then give strangers access to your Discord too?

I’m the guy in a 3-4 man squad almost every other night and its broken, this isn’t the stereotypical whinging of some steamy antisocial losers that want playing with friends removed. Matchmaker accounts for powerscore but it can’t account for squads which are going to be using comms and synergizing modules. MM can’t even guarantee that both teams have a doppler if one has a doppler. We don’t even get voip anymore to buddy up with some other solo rando in each battle to coordinate.

When players can go on 20-30 win streaks that powerscore dies and games go from mostly full teams of players to half bots because what a surprise that people don’t want to play against a 3-4 stack running a comp with comms treating missions like CW practice.

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Oldie but a goodie thats already uploaded

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Exactly

The fact that people would actually complain about this is kind of funny. I almost never play in a group, but to suggest that that should somehow be limited in any way at all is just silly. If you can’t or won’t group up, and fighting against groups of players somehow bothers you, I suggest you don’t play online games. Maybe go back to Pac-Man or the first generation of Tomb Raider. Geez!

Exactly. Just take a second when the match starts to look around at your teammates. Don’t just go rushing towards the enemy like a bozo. If you are in a machine gun build for example, and you spot a sniper build, protect him. Make him useful. That kind of thing is easy to do. The fact that most teams of random players behave like they’re not on a team at all is why even two or three people grouping up can decimate their opponents in every match.

Just because you had to deal with it doesn’t mean the game shouldn’t be fix. SQUADS against RANDOMS is game breaking and extremely one sided.

the best way to fix this problem is to allow solo to opt out in “options” regarding cuing against squads,

ITS NOT crying to point out the issue of broken mechanic that allows squads to bully nearly every match they are in against randoms. its NOT a skill issue. 4 on 1 is NO contest. the math is too one sided. regarding the dps of 4 vs dps of 1. and squads deliberately seek those odds. for free fuel This problem is nasty on console where there are NOT enough players to run squad vs squad, and random vs random.

Those that exploit this kind of flawed game mechanics are the ones accusing other of not having skill or claiming the other is crying to obfuscate the issue because they want the status quo to stay the same so they can continue to bully other players because its NO contest 4 on 1 for the vast majority of players.

Its actually players like you who wreck the game who gets off bullying other players. and making excuses to keep it that way.

your comment reeks of that of a bully. trying to bully the op into not commenting again.

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