Maybe explosive radius penetrates shields?
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Shield has reduced dura vs blast
It is finally in incubation. I will give birth to a helicon tomorrow and pair it up with the waltz I got with lighters from the last battle pass that has just been sitting around collecting dust.
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Hear hear!!! May you pop many generators and tilt many hovers.
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I am starting to regret it already but I donāt have much left to buy. Tried jorg and hated it, tried ripper and hated it, tried typhoon and hated it, tried breaker and hated it. Only relic I likes is porcupines. I managed to craft one for around 31 300 coin on pc so I can at least break even on it or wait until next recipe change and see if I can make a profit. Only way of playing it is having it buried behind layers of space armor on either legs or hovers and I am not a space armor person.
I dunno, I think it needs a reload increase that is similar to locust or close to it. It is hard to hit anything and when you miss you get punished for it because it takes to long for a follow up shot, You also got to factor in drop off as well. Canāt hit nothing at range and even close up targets that is moving fast horizontally is just as hard to hit.
Projectile speed needs a big buff and the perk needs to be distance based, not time. I enjoyed playing with them but they arent great weapons right now.
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Yes. Helicons will throw you into the deep end of the pool power score wise, and art builds have no place there. You had better have your Helicon buried in spaced armor, mounted to a Omamori with a train plow or two in front of it. If you donāt have that setup or something like it, the gun probably isnāt going to work out for you.
The gun takes much practice to get consistently good hits out of. The reload is only 3 seconds. Thatās the same reload as a Porcupine. How fast did you want it?
Right. By Relic standards, I feel like Iām doing a lot more work to get scores than your average player on a Punisher hover. However, it is extremely rewarding to land long shots on spiders or unaware hovers and hit those 1700 point volleys.
They originally promised that the Helicon perk was going to activate after half a second flight time, and they nerfed that before release. I would like to see that come back.
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I even made a 6.5k build with a helicon+waltz and did even worse than 15k(quite a lot worst actually). Should of bought another porc, only relic that is effective at all ps ranges(maybe breaker as well dunno). I can bring them into 5k or 15k donāt matter and still do good.
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Save your money on Breakers and get Hammerfalls instead. Breakers are horrible lately. Honestly, the only relics that are shining right now are Scorpions, Firebugs, Flash and Mastodons. Apart from those four, relics arenāt ultra dominant. If you are getting a single stand alone relic that dominates at all power scores, why not Flash?
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Defensively it has about 40 percent more DPS than a Spark, (about 750 vs. 550 on the damage meter) so it eats through all manner of annoying mines that you might run into. It can eat 6 Jubokkos in half a second. This includes Hurricane spam, Yaogaui drones, Kapkans, Kings and other stuff. Just get a radar to go with it.
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Offensively, it slows down builds so that only the Kami cab can beat it, It cuts reload speed in half and works with any low or high power score build from Lacerators and Maulers to Remedies, to Firebugs and Porcupines. Flash an Avalanche and it will never shoot again.
Also, you can use it as a stand alone weapon in Levi wars with a Spark and a Skinner and stop a charging levi.
No other relic has the range of useful builds that a Flash does.
Porcs are cool but I have been disappointed with them lately. They donāt degun anything so they tend to get chewed up while they are fighting. Helicon is effective, but it only works on specific builds, and takes a high skill cap.
If you are running Helicons, I recommend the following gear: 1. Fused+ Power Beholder/Kami/Hadron/Griffon cab, 2. 7-8 Icarus VII fused for acceleration efficiency or power 3. Fused Cheetah or Oppressor for +Power, Onamori, Flywheel and Cloak.
On a really fast and agile hover build, they do really well. I win most one v. one duels with Breakers and hammerfalls, and do well against Arbiters and Scorpions as long as I can get in close and duck in and out of cover.
On other builds, you are going to have a tough time with them.
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I only run 2 porcs in under the cab with legs or something so my porcs donāt get shot up plus 2 or more regular weapons on top for example destructors(destructors is upgraded for range and reload). That is a really effective combo that I does really well with.
Ill pass on the flash, not my style. I also got 4 upgraded imps and even tho it aināt a shotgun I finds it kind of fills the same role as a shotgun to a degree so ill pass on the hammerfall too at least for now. I dunno I think ill just keep the coin and upgrade legendaries during various upgrade events. That is what I did last time when I sold the jorg and decided to upgrade 4 imps instead and I donāt regret that decision one bit, my imp build is one of the best builds I got that I regularly scores 2000 points or more each match.
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Hammerfalls are great. But they are not great if you do not like shotguns.
I think he meant your build gets torn apart with porc only build because you cannot de gun, you are not likely to end a battle with most of your hps left.
Edit: Also I enjoy some of the real discussion going on in this thread.
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