Wrong! It was only, Participate and get paid, not do damage and get paid. They stole it away in the name of stopping cheaters.
I do not have this problem playing Piercers. In a game that says, “play anyway you desire just grind forever”, then all Weapons should give Rewards, even auto aim weapons! So, just remove all auto aim weapons from the game since killing Cabins is useless and auto aim weapons kill Cabins. Then when whatever new players want to use Cobras and Pythons and not get paid, then they will quit this grind fest game, like I should have years ago, and then the servers will die and then you can all find a new game. I will keep posting regardless. And I will never give them another dime and regret the 33.00 I spent already. Good luck not understanding English that I was here when it started, and I have seen it all and I have seen them nerf auto aim weapons into the ground and nerf rewards into the ground all to force players to spend money. There are many Free to Play games around, peace.
No one cares, stop about it already you look like you’re only attention seeking How about book a trip, enjoy life spend time away from a game who doesn’t award you for doing nothing or the bare minimum!
And there is the problem and the reason why you get no points… - You did not participate.
It’s not - Get in a match and do nothing and get paid - … You need to participate, and by that it means you need to do your share of pulling the weight of the team. As in → DO DAMAGE to other players.
If you are at a brick laying job in construction, and everyone is working hard, but you just walk around and don’t lay a single brick, and demand a pay because you ware simply there… would it be ok?
No damage or sector capture = No payment. As simple as that. And the system works.
I want drones, caucassus, and homing missiles removed from the game at this point, they are extremelly bad and people still want for them to be nerfed even more, and people like him end using them and become a liability to their team…
I can tell you that I use Caucasus. Not too often, but I do, simply because it’s different and refreshing at times.
Is it bad? Yes… Is it BAD bad? No…
It didn’t need to be nerfed so much. But I am NOT a liability with it. I do a fair share of damage and keep the performance up just like the rest of the team. I just put in more work to do so.
Weapons don’t make players a liability. Players make players a liability. (Except Fuzes. Those things are just bad bad useless)
Liability? Did you see all the MVP screenshots using Pythons? Pythons! MVP! 8/8 kill or kill assists! I am no liability!
I rammed a guy into the pit for kill and we won, nothing!
In a lag filled battle that I could barely move or aim, I got 3 kill assists and Victory for nothing!
I rammed a guy to death, right through him, survived and victory and 1st Blood Patch and got nothing!
You kill or help kill even only one enemy and you got paid! You deserve paid for your time.
I did misspeak, in the past, you would not get paid if you got zero, so the minimum was 10 points, first damage and you got paid. The minimum was not zero.
If you got nothing, your first blood was just a stray bullet hitting someone for 8 damage. And the ram was just you hitting someone who was almost dead and had maybe 10 durability left.
The guaranteed thing is that you didn’t do the damage since you didn’t get points…
So the important question here is:
WHAT did you do the entire match if you survived to the end but didn’t do any damage?
Not a bullet, a ramming kill with passive melee, you can tell how the enemy was killed by the pop up, and that post and screenshot are lost with the old forum. I am not recording video while playing on this formerly Windows 7 potato.
I will retell the story of how I dropped my Turrets and got a power boost and rammed through an enemy. The Mission started and a poor enemy ran right at us on the map because my Detector and he was blasted by cannons, not my Turrets, and I rammed through him, for 1st Blood. Then, I canceled my Turrets and while they were reloading the 3 Allies with me killed 3 Enemy. We never saw the other 4 Enemy as our other 4 Allies killed them easily for a steamroll, 8 kills, zero deaths. I got 3 Patches including 1st Blood and under 40 Points.
Ok, so it’s not a bullet but a ram hit on an already almost dead enemy…
That’s way more cool than a bullet but still the same thing. You only did a single hit on a target somebody already did the job of killing…
It;s the same as if in a street fight everyone is fighting, and someone is already so beaten up, it only takes one punch to finish him… You get next to him and throw that last punch. You don’t get the credit, the guy who was fighting him to get him to that almost dead position gets the credit because HE did all the work.
You need to understand that this game does not reward the finisher, it rewards the guy who did all the work and served the target on a silver plate for the finisher to finish.
And that I exactly how it should be. So that hard workers get the points… Kill stealers only get the statistic.
But getting that kill proves you are not a cheater or afk so you deserve your recource reward for participating and not being a cheater.
Like right now, I rammed a porcupine player in the face and ate two barrels that exploded in his face and did self-harm and I got nothing for that because he harmed himself. He died in seconds being now red hot and ally’s focus fire.
I bring a lot of points to the field when I play Turrets. 4 Epic Bigfoot, Epic Call Cabin, Epic Detector, Epic Cheetah, 3 Special Pythons, Radio, Epic Cloak, and structure parts to almost 2500 HP. When enemy shoot parts off me, they get paid. I shoot their bare Harpy Cabin at the end of a banana cannon vehicle and I only get the Cabin points which is barely above nothing! or an exposed Growl with Scorpions. Nobody hides their Cabin but me!
Killing a Cabin should earn you the minimum reward! The Cabin is the most important part on the vehicle!
The only good enemy is a dead enemy and if I make him dead then pay me!
You don;t get rewarded for not being a cheater or afk. You get rewarded for doing hard work.
Let’s say there is a boxing tournament. And one of the boxers doesn’t hit much or hurt anyone, but he is not cheating. There are no metal plates in his gloves, but he simply can’t damage anyone… Should he get one of the trophies just because he didn’t cheat?
Right… because HE harmed him self… You didn’t do it. You ware just there but HE made the mistake of firing barrels too close.
I don’t know what to tell you, but I don’t have the problems you do… Every time I put some effort, I get loads of points. I can’t always be MVP, but the ONLY time I’m low on points is when I am literally lanced before I start attacking.
And then I just restart a new match, because no time was lost.
I disagree. Because I do not like kill stealers that when an enemy is getting killed, wait for their team mate to get the target to almost dead (burning) and only then fire to steal the kill.
IF an enemy build is a naked cabin with a big weapon, as you say, just kill him fast (because those players suck and are so fragile) and move to the next.
I realize you disagree and obviously I disagree with you and your reasons are sound, but I remember when they raised the minimum to points and the intention was to stop afk bot farming. I also remember when they stole points away by taking away the points for all the parts that get destroyed when you destroy the Cabin, now they just fall off for zero points.
This was a thing when only Kills counted toward your Kill per Battle ratio or KBP. Now that Assists count toward KBP people do not wait to steal your kill they just ram you out of the way and take it or block your turrets and take it or ram the enemy away and take it. They do not wait; they are all so greedy.
Turrets don’t move.
It’s bad for the game. Every time I do not get paid when I know I did more than half my team to try to win and they got paid and I did not, it breaks my immersion into the game. It makes me get up and walk away, get some coffee, whatever.
You have to reward the grinder every time, keep him hitting that battle button over and over, feed the addiction or the whales will have nobody to play with and they will not stay whales.
Yes, we disagree but I like that you are keeping things civil.
That’s exactly it. Turrets. They can sometimes do a lot of damage, if used in group fights. Just choose the situation where you deploy them.
If your weapon of choice is one that can’t select targets or move with you, then you have accepted that you should either use them in selective encounters, like group fights where they will wreck havoc and be ignored, OR accepted that you will get only a few points because people moved from them, cleared them or they killed a naked cabin and are just sitting there useless now.
It’s Turrets… I won’t be mad if I play Fuzes and I can’t kill anyone or if I play flying drones and everybody shoots them the moment I deploy… These weapons are not reliable.
I understand and respect the love for a specific weapon, but if this whole issue is a problem for you, you will have to switch to a different weapon, that can kill that naked cabin fast and move to a normal target that brings points.
Assists have always counted towards the KPB tally but they’re much easier to get now. Previously you had to deal damage in the final seconds(10-15) before someone died to get the assist, now any damage at any time will reward an assist.
Can I ask, do you spread your turrets out or drop them simultaneously in one spot?
Good question, at first all 3 in a triangle, but of course they then reload at different times so I can then drop one here one there or use terrain to block one from deploying on mu left, right or rear. Players can typically drive between my turrets to avoid blocking allies, I can drive between the triangle, and I am quite wide.
Thanks for the advice, I swapped my 3 Piercers for my newly crafted Maces, and I cannot get under 40 even when lanced. But now I am the greedy player or the try-hard, that I did not wish to be. But, unlike others, after getting a kill and several assists I lay off the attack and see what my allies can do.
You are incorrect. When Patches became Badges and Patches unlocked Trials and Trials unlocked Banners and Logos, then for the first time Assists counted toward KBP. I already had over 70,000 Missions before this change.
Before this change having a KBP of 1.00 was considered good with all the kill stealing going on.
Now a new player can easily have a KBP of over 4.00 just running 3 Drones for very little money.
Nope, enjoying a game therefore having a high battle count doesn’t make you a try hard. Sticking to the meta, using op parts, spaced armour, decor armour, aim assist etc… makes someone a try hard. Surprised YOU got that one wrong