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A. When the paid parts/vehicles are better than the free ones, yes. It is P2W.
B. GAIJIN DOESN"T MAKE ANYTHING. Targem makes Crossout, Gaijin just provides shitty “servers” and takes a huge cut of the money.
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completely deluded “meme”
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No parts in Crossout are hidden behind paywalls, which by definition means it’s not P2W.
“Oh no, I have to grind out my parts by playing!”
Yeah, just like the majority of games with any kind of advancing mechanic.
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* any other game with a predatory monetization scheme
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A number of things in game ARE pay only. Admittedly, not parts, but some things are locked behind paywalls.
Gangserism is right, Crossout is made to be very hard to grind and incentivize spending.
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Nothing is free.
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counterpoint:the parts from said packs significantly raise your power score and make you fight people with those same parts.therefore,not p2w as you always fight people on par with you
its not possible to play against people on par with you when your p2w pack weapon is overpowered compared to all other weapons
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Then explain how,when i use gear and parts from a pack,i play agaisnt people with gear and parts from that same pack,and we have the same PS.and besides,its not like literally EVERY SINGLE PART of the enemy is destrucible,and you can just SHOOT THEIR GUNS OFF from FAR AWAY
you might have the same ps because you happen to play with people who bought the pack too?
yea lmfao go ahead and strip a raijin from far away
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I feel like I see people doing that with cyclones relatively often.
Even with an omamori, they aren’t indestructible.
Any performance enhancing item in Crossout is available without spending money. And no, spending time playing a game is not at all equivalent to spending money. You spend money to skip the grind, which is fundamentally different from spending money to win.
If you feel like the devs are “forcing” you to spend money, it just means you are impatient. No one is forcing you to do anything.
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This is by definition not a pay-to-win system. Words have definitions, and communication is impossible if we’re not going to use those definitions.
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I was referring more to Warthunder.
Also… have you ever heard of Sealclubbing? Kind of annihilates the powerscore argument
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I might be impatient, but I feel I don’t need to spend 4 days grinding for a single epic part.
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fair enough, its not p2w. its nothing more than a predatory monetization scheme designed with a singular purpose in mind, that is to milk players for money by introducing infinite grinds, insensible balance changes designed to force you to always buy the new best thing, in practice making it physically impossible to grind enough money to buy the new overpowered meta before its gone already, and whatever you buy next will be nerfed soon too, and if you go for the correct option of buying a “normal” weapon, you receive neverending punishment by cringe metas
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thats not impaticence, its called having a life in any capacity
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Then spend some real money to get it quicker. I don’t find four days for an epic to be a very long time, but I am a very patient person, and I like to spend some time with every new item I get and make lots of different builds with them to assess their full potential.
Regardless, it’s not pay-to-win.
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I don’t even play that much compared to many on this forum, and I don’t play CW currently.
And yet I always have a constant influx of new toys, and never feel like I have to chase a meta.
Any business that wants your money has to do something to convince you to do that. Crossout uses the impatience of players like you to achieve that. Doesn’t work on someone like me.
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its hard to call that impatience. if you want to be competitive for instance in cw or cc, you have to buy expensive items
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