Also the adapter is a pretty sweet weapon.
8.5k PS - on jannabi cabin on wheels, I tried to use Harpy, but it seems explosion radius of Cyclones is not big enough to get a visible damage boost from harpys perk?
I also dont intend to fuse them - it takes a month of grinding to build one, so I would rather make another build then commit to this single one.
Kind of - by losing a lot of rotation freedom, Cyclones have HUGE butts and require tons of space around them. I also assumed cabin is worth protecting too - Cyclones arent precise enough to counter even Storms, so I expect to get alot of DMG flying towards my fast 1200 durability build.
I feel like they might be too big to be effective on a light cabin, but I am a fan of Jannabi and I’m curious if you can get the perk working with them.
Another possibility you might want to try is using them with Omniwheels, so that you can get both guns on the Averter, and use your strafing and pivoting to aim. Jannabi would not be a good choice for that though, as the perk can’t be activated on omniwheels.
I am pretty sure Rapid Fire MGs are the qwepon of choice for Jannabi, but I chose it for speed, power and nice shape. Rotation speed of Cyclones kind of prevents the perk from working - its neigh impossible to track target while drfting around it.
Possible - but given size and low durability I dont see them staying alive on a slow target, as of now I am slightly “hit and running” starting to fire before enemy contact to be at “full fire speed” and trying to hide after overheating. Or medium-distance sniping, but it is extremely situational 
You have to use the oppressor engine.
That would sacrifice the averter - and god damn - Cyclone is easier to strip than a rare shotgun cough (also av erter is protecting cabin + hot red). I will try though - but having close-combat light-cabin AC build will be a challenge. What PS is reasonable then? Epic cabin + Cyclone pushes me into 8-9k PS range.
Though I do have a 4k Sprinter-Cylcone build to participate in the cyrcus. Its no match for Borer builds.
I agree.
If you have some, stick some buggy wheels in there, as they’ll make your seal and oppressor a lot more effective. Mount them so you can fire sideways, and ideally far apart from each other so that they don’t interfere with each other and so that they don’t both get destroyed at the same time by explosives.
Averter is not needed for cyclones.
Also for a fast car cyclone put one cyclone on top of the cab or behind it and one in front of the cab so both guns can shot forward and to the sides.
I would also use Jade15 driver.
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i just feel cyclones are a bit limiting for me. if i use a cyclone on my build i can be stupid vulnerable at close range (i literally cannot hit a small enemy at close range due to my cyclone not being able to tilt downwards to aim). i have my cyclone mounted on 2 porcs on top of my cab.
cyclones hurt alot though. in pve enemies just crumble apart. its surprising how fast they just melt from a single cyclone let alone 2. especially the lunatics, oh man do they fall apart.
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Imo if you have two cyclones and only one seal, then “favorite” is the best cab for you hands down. I still have my 9k version of said build on the playstation exibition. Small tracks are the best part for that build. Four tracks should be enough. A really solid strong build set up that pulls its weight.
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I prefer my cyclones side by side at the back of the cab personally.
Mounting one cyclone in front of the cab is only a good idea if your using wheels, as you will end up side fighting more. Parts that can reverse at full speed are much better off with cyclones mounted behind the cabin or to the sides.
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I also agree that mounting cyclones behind the cab is best, but we are trying to help this guy make a low PS wheel build. For some reason he does not want to make a hover or leg build.
Unless I’m trying to force cyclones to be played at low PS I would never use wheels with them.
I also like to use Nova cab with cyclones to block typhoon and scorp shots.
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… Tracks dude…
Because I dont have any hovers - but I do have 4 bigrams, I just feel one needs 6 to survive PvP as losing 1 out of 4 is death sentence. ALso - averter is meant as protection for cabin to a degree, it is sandwiched between cabin and hot red below Cyclone in the back.
Thats how it looks at the moment:
I am saving money for it - eventually.
How light do I have to build -its barely over 1k durability as it is ?
My 9k quad small track cyclone build has 2.2k hp with a favorite cabin. Harpy will be a bit light on hp. When I use a harpy I usually try to use a mass engine. Especially if your useing cyclones.
I also forgot my favorite is fused for tonnage so I get just a lil more. So you may need two more small tracks for what your doing. With an unfused favorite you can still get close to 2khp with four small tracks. Adding two more tracks will push you towards, 9,500 and more armour will have you nearing 10k.
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Favorite on itself has even lower HP - but it will probably be worth it for the perk. Still - it feels Cyclones are not exactly overperforming even on 8.5k PS - so I am not sure how they deal with walker-canon and hover-scorpion builds that are very common in the PS.
Also - favorite is really slow - how is one expected do deal with shotgunners and rapid fire MGs? Cyclones soak damage like a wig in the rain.
they dont. scorpions can hit them from across the map cause they have such a big hit box. its pretty bad that cyclones have such a massive hitbox to. the mastodon has a ton of hp but if you get something on them like MG’s, more specifically arbiters, then they dont last long at all.
You mean favorite cabs base hp is Less than harpys base hp? That doesn’t matter. Favorite cab can get much higher max hp. Favorite cab is also 300ps less.
Yes favorite cab is going slower than a small cab. It’s still very fast though. Cyclones are not a weapon that’s going to brawl well if all your doing is running away and using low hp light builds. Eventually that shorty will get you in range one way or another.
What I do is make sure I have a verifier and as soon as that white circle beeps towards me I full reverse away from it and I shoot the enemy as they inch closer to me. That’s the best you can really do vs shotties. Machine guns, shotties and scorps are def always an issue for cyclones. There aren’t really ways around that. And if you can outrun the the little guys then you will just have no hp and get pwned by everything else.
They do. Nova cab on hovers can block those shots with the shield and move back behind cover. You just have to have map awareness.
It takes 6 shots with double scorps to strip 3 cyclones. And with the nova shield it’s going to take a lot more then that. And they are not going to hit every time.
Scorps are definitely better, but with practice you can win your fair share of match-ups.
ive never seen anyone run cyclones on a nova cab though. you sure about that?
i just feel this cabin is so cheap tbh. unlimited shields and all you need to do is hide to recover, if someone shoots you just pop the shield and hide again till it recharges. it makes using cannons and scorpions completely useless. i know there are some ways around this but its to tedious imo.