Yes, this was the practical “excuse” for it, and official explanation (valid point too)…
…and ya, they sure took advantage of the situation…or tried to. I would have gone the other direction with this marketing ploy and made it advantageous to the player to invest in Crosscrowns, but instead they did what they did…like a junkie always on the hustle.
It’s a practice that goes way back to early BBS’s we use to get users to retain credits and then they could use the credits however they wanted. This was mostly to circumvent credit and bank fees. So larger amounts of credits always had more favorable rates for users. Then you’d have to set up your rate fees to the credits for the BBS services off of it. It’s pretty much the something. When there was a small batch of credits there was normally something cheap you could use on.
(my own opinion)
Crosscrowns to gold should have been closer to 1:1
pack prices often require more then one pack of crosscrowns which kind of sucks.
Most of the cosmetics are a little too pricy these should have matched up better to the left over amounts
Similarly the small subscription prices should have fit with that amount as well. Same with extra battle pass levels…
The way they worked it out you tend to have even more left over after that.
I think I would have juiced Crosscrowns a little harder, like 1.05CC to 1GC, and made them slightly more valuable than gold coins, and then burned the client on selling bling exclusively with Crosscrowns, rather than schitting on them right at the counter with the exchange rate.
They don’t even bother with the honeymoon, or cordiality and just screw you right off the bat. I would pitch the screwball later, with the bling store.
Old bling is cheap to reproduce (point/click) and even fun to package. I think they chose a miserable way to sell Crosscrowns, and I’m glad I don’t have to do it. They are not a good product, and I’d hate to try and sell them, but if I did…I’d hustle the bling with it.
It’s a dick move IMO, and bad hustle. A proper hustle should make everybody happy…even the guy who got duffed…like with cheese burgers and fries (selling schit at a premium). It happens everyday.
It’s like that on purpose though.
The way they have it set up is that all packs always give the best coin value per money spent… this way when whales run out of packs to buy they can spend even more on coin packs if they really want more coins
Well they kind of always have a buy 1000 get x as a bonus so it’s always had a higher rate going already. When I say 1:1 I mean it as being an easy clear cut rate to figure out. I don’t have it open to look at how many they are charging for pack vs coin pack and it kind of has to match up.
I don’t think when they worked out the prices they were really thinking how it makes the player feel. It could have been done a lot better like many of the small snafu’s tossed in the game.
A lot of the bigger stuff could be done a la carte and the players could pick through more of the stuff they really like. Packs would look cheaper, you get the decor that you want, paint you want… Some of it’s set-up to do like theirs the lite packs but haven’t put 2&2 together yet. lol
Exactly.
That’s works fine when your spending real currency but not as well when using virtual currency.
I think the whole game is a system of cheats and exploits, and people who go with that flow, or understand that, do better, and like it better.
That’s why I think that on the one hand, actually and truly cheating is sort of petty and unflattering, and a bit disparaging for the rest of us, but on the other hand that’s just how this game operates, and it is what it is; a system of cheats and exploits on a whole lot of levels.
I can hardly blame people for “cheating” in an environment like this game. It’s almost stupid not to (almost), but most successful players are ruthlessly exploiting the game dynamics one way or another (probably multiple ways), both the seen and unseen game dynamics, whether you believe they exist or not.
Maybe it’s the nature of the industry; hackers. IDK. I hear they all (the gaming industry) run some sort of hustle. It would be silly to think this game doesn’t have some major hustle.
It’s one of the most innovative games out there, and I’m sure there is a reason there is no competition. It looks complicated to me, for a video game, and I don’t see other companies replicating it terribly successfully. I see a thousand reskinned first person shooters, but not a lot out there that comes close to this game…or I’d probably go do that. IDK. Point is, it’s silly to think there is some game lever that is just too sophisticated for these developers to manage. I think they have managed some pretty clever BS in the past, and will continue to do so in the future, and are probably up to some clever schit right now…you’ll see.
I’m not saying their hustle is always bad, but there is certainly a hustle, and it runs deep into the game mechanics, is not always opaque, and is not just at the checkout stand…but it’s there too.
They are cleer in how they spin new changes… large or small changes they’re good at spinning it to make it seem liek they’re doing or changing something but in reality there’s always another side to it that they hope most people will not notice.
I mean just look at how they’re abusing non-craftable items to sell passes because they’re out of ideas.
Most people won’t either. They are called “goyim” in some circles (it’s nothing new), and it is said that their purpose in life is to be ranched by higher life forms. I tried not to believe in that, and I think it’s ugly…but recent global events have made me reconsider the ideology. There might be some truth to it.
Shareholders trying to squeeze infinite profit from finite resources, the company and its employees or the product be damned. They never accept steady profits, or a positive ROI. Its always gotta be growing passive income. Its why cars suck, houses suck, games suck, TV sucks, consumer items suck.
Hell a few probably play this game and have their pet favorite parts, win the rigged contests, and override the balance team.
Ever since Supercharged this game has been going downhill fast. Omamori, Catalina, Camera Steering, lighter god fuse parts, BP fused part powercreep.
Hell, the most OP and meta items are even identical to the nature of the eternal shareholder; nearly no effort for all the reward.
There’s 100% some truth in it, perhaps not to the extent that some think but in prinicple most people will go through life as a blind bat going through the motions and not really doing or accomplishing anything that actually want to do, and some don’t even have those personal aspirations and instead do what others say, live how others tell them they should be living… kinda sad really
The matchmaking is definitely of the 50/50 type. Win a lot, suddenly your team is licking moss on the walls in isotope green vans. Get the same players 5-6 times, then the mm stops crushing your balls. Even seems to hold grudges, because as soon as holidays start I get sent into a losing streak, prob because the game has much more 30% winrate players to pick from and put on my team for me to carry/get dragged by.
This said I’ve never suspected it of favoring paying players much. There’s fusions, so does it really need to do it?
I figured it was about resource hogging, and was a way to curtail hording resources, because it seems like the difficulty gets cranked after I finish my dailies, like I’ve gotten my allotment or resources and the game wants me to FO and stop grinding…and if I don’t, then they just put a hard cap on it. Sort of like how they toss you out of the kiddie pool after you hit level 30 Engineers…or maybe that’s my imagination too, and is far too complicated of a mechanic for these nerds to handle at Targem 
IDK, but the game does seem more fun the less you play it…I’m not sure that’s a good business model, but that seems to be the end result.
It’s funny you call it a conspiracy theory, if I’m not gaming I’m debunking conspiracy theories on the internet.
But here’s an interesting fact a theory is only a theory if it can’t be tested and proven or disproven. So anyone can do this, pay for 6 mouths then don’t for 6. It’s simple enough
This is some results when I didn’t pay.
https://youtu.be/MVbq3Y9eywQ?si=G13HhDkaoPtCzJbq
And this is what matches look like when I pay.
There’s actually another big mvp win right after those two but I took a 5 minute break so I just cut that out but I still have the uncut version.
Think about it, it’s a p2w game and if the weapons they sell are useless, ie starfall, and nagual, then how would they motivate you to pay.
I mean the nagual is a 1375 ps weapon that not even equal to a 800 ps weapon.
Take a miller to your range target see what you score then take the nagual, and see the difference.
What this isn’t evidence.
Wonder what my team would have scored if their bots weren’t the, not one but the two best scorers.
Badges aren’t earned by individual performance, so it doesn’t matter if I’m the top scorer on my team
I’m not really sure what you think your videos prove, but I do think it’s funny that you seem to have forgotten that miller was also a BP item, so I’m not sure how that fits in with your theory of why it’s stronger than Starfall, which is also a BP item.
Anyway, I like Nagual, but I didn’t spend
any money to get a set. I just grinded them out.
Is this a publicly traded company? Google says it’s owned by Anton Yudintsev.
Idk but russia has their plague of investors too
What I mean is they might have sold “a share percentage” such as 10% of the business, without issuing actual stock, leaving it a private company, leaving one person to make all decisions who is only accountable to themselves.
Not that I’m interested in buying part of it. It would be a horrid investment for a U.S. citizen. If I were to invest in a company not located in a democracy, it would be in companies in Vietnam right now, they will grow as Vietnam industrializes and the US relocates manufacturing there from China.
I didn’t say miller was stronger then starfall, i don’t have the starfall, I’ve stop spending money on this game a while ago, but if you never see them in a match, then it’s self explanatorily. The videos are just my evidence, with 200 gig of videos, I can make you see whatever i want, so whatever I put up is pretty much pointless, thats why I explained how anyone can figure it out for themselves. Because I’m pretty much done, my PlayStation is petering out, and because of the lack off pvp games that i’m interested in on PlayStation I’ll be getting something different, and I’m not going to start from scratch again.
Now a little info about me, i don’t work, haven’t had to work since 2017, and the reason I came across this game. 30 to 40 matches a day, and thats probably a really low estimate, especially in the beginning when matches lasted only 90 seconds on average, "I don’t even play 5 a week now,“ and I have well over 2000 hrs on this game, and over that time I did spend money. So not only do I represent the gamers crossout wants playing, I also represent all the gamers that crossout has lost, not because the game its self sucks, but because they don’t know how to monetize it. Instead of getting gamers to give them their money happily they do sneaky things to try and force you, updates that destroy your build so you have to build something new, and maybe you’ll spend money to do so, limit resources for recipes, " it wasn’t that people weren’t completing challenges the match making is actively trying to prevent you from completing them all, if your not a paying player. You can really notice in the time to complete challenges, all in a couple days versus not all for the whole week. A wise man once said something to me that I will never forget, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. The loss of 8000 players of 12000 pretty much tells the story there.
For me, this is good bye, so this is now someone else’s fight, but I am curious about one thing, before I go, you’re a PlayStation guy right. How come with all the time I’ve put into the game I’ve probably conversed with you more on this forum then I’ve played in matches with you, I see other players 5, 6, times a week if not 5,6, times a day, we’ve played maybe a dozen or 2 matches together tops. You know us conspiracy theorists, tend to be the curious sort.