7.1.2 Using fuel barrels as explosives has been in the game since launch. There was a nerf to this to bring it in line, I think maybe 2 years into the game? The explosion aspect remained intact, you indeed can build a fuel bomb in game. Hard to get it to explode right, but it can be done. It probably doesn’t violate this one.
The others I agree with.
Yeah, I remember building lance/fuel/ammo bombs a long time ago. It’s nothing new other than those bulbs were meant to benefit you by killing the enemy, not yourself. 
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I think I had a 20 fuel barrel build in a box. I’d wait for everyone to bunch up and drive in honking to get people to shoot me. It was a blast!
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Makes me wanna build one with a cloak and an inflatable mammoth on top with every flare, hologram, and flaming exhaust I could fit.
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They are even at it in regular pvp now. Played a match with 4 players from a clan on my team and they had a plant on the enemy team. Thee attk clan using plants now.
I was in a large active clan for awhile. Full 20 slots, everyone playing at least 4 hours a night most nights.
We had all kinds of combinations in battles. So not cheating “could” be a possibility. Sometimes we would have a squad of 4 on one team and a squad of 4 on the other side. We even qued at the same time trying to face each other on purpose.
Kind of seems like that guy looked and saw his clan mates and left the game to reque faster because he already knew it was a lost cause.
That being said, I didn’t play in that game and you did. I do not discount that you felt it was.
Edit: another possibility, they were trying to que at the same time to get 5 on a team, when it didnt happen he left.
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dude didn’t leave the game, he just stayed there for cannon fodder for his clan the least this player could of did was put up a fight. I got it recorded so i knows what happened.
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Something is up with the clans currently, I am seeing 4 man groups way more often these days (past month) than I used to, in all powerscores
Maybe the clan players have finally reached the point where they use their epic uranium brought skills for easy victories as a whole just to feel some ounce of superiority in their lives
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Not these forums anymore apparently. The last player i reported went unpunished. I submitted like six videos of the guy pinning me and chaseing me around and just trying to block all my shots and trying to get me killed while never fighting the enemy. They did nothimg to him.
I mean maybe its just me the mods are doing it to. Idk. But hey. Aparently now players can do whatever they want to me in game and never get a ban now.
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Players from one clan teaming so that one sacrifices a series of battles and makes the others win - that’s technicaly sabotage. It’s consistent and carefully planned in a group of players. But, the losing clanmate has to get some wins, too, so they’ll be switching up for all of them to ideally get similar amounts of wires. Which, in their perspective, is just farming. If you happen to get on the same team with the ‘designated loser’ - it’s just bad luck. And organizing that within a clan is just more predictable, but quite unnecessary. It’s extra effort. They need to farm for longer periods, switch up the roles, maybe they use a voice chat service. So much hassle for something most of such farmers do solo.
It’s not cheating. 
A player armored with barrels only wants to do enough damage to qualify for the wires reward, and finish the battle ASAP. Those players are speedfarmers. Initially, I was surprised, but I soon realized they were making many more wires than me. And I still continue to fight to win, using regular armor. Check out this breakdown:
10 minutes of playing “Off We Go!” (which could well the name of be chief developer Alex’ ‘Panama plan’ for when Crossout finally tanks) could go like this:
2 x 5-minute win, 31 wires each = 62 wires (a less lucky or skilled team),
or
4 x 2.5-minute win, 31 wires = 124 wires (a more lucky or skilled team),
or
10 x 30-second loss + 10 x 30 seconds queue time, 16 wires = 160 wires,
or
9 x 1-minute loss + 6 seconds queue time, 16 wires = 144 wires,
or
18 x 30-second loss + 6 seconds queue time, 16 wires = 288 wires.
Or a mixed situation. Someone trying to win could have the following history:
3 x 5-minute win, 31 wires
2 x 1-minute win, 31 wires
3 x 5-minute loss, 21 wires
2 x 1-minute loss, 21 wires
For a total of 260 wires over 24 minutes of combat, let’s say it’s 25 minutes with thee shortest queue time.
For a speedfarmer, that’s at least:
20 x 1-minute loss, 16 wires.
For a total of 320 wires over 20 minutes of combat, make it 25 with 15 seconds queue time each.
Players from one clan, or friends, being on both sides, even queueing at the same time to make sure that happens, is just a way to farm wires faster in this mode. I’ve recorded multiple battles when that happened, and players from the same clan being on both sides was a rare occurrence. It’s mostly individual players who saw an opportunity to make more wires in a series of quick losses.
I feel stupid for not doing this from the start, or at all. Because I still don’t do it. I don’t even have enough barrels. I guess I could just fly into the death zone to the same dffect. But I’m not wired to farm by losing. That’s not the mujahid way. 
It’s bad if that happens when you badly need the two wins for a daily Pilot’s Chest, and it’s just minutes till the daily reset. Other than that, I don’t mind someone making me lose on purpose, if that means I get to make more wires per time unit than if I fought a whole 5 minutes to win. It’s a wacky phenomenon, but I’m grateful to those farmers, because they increase my farming rate too. When I encounter a barrel-helicopter, I let it shoot at me for a moment, so that helpful farmer can get the minimum score of 60, perhaps, and go home with at least 16 wires for being so nice. I’ve even PMed them a few times to apologize for blowing them up too soon, if they didn’t get any wires from such a battle. They’re nice people. 
Again, I’m all about fighting to win. When I’m outnumbered and outgunned in regular PvP, I will run till the end of the battle to prevent the enemies from getting a kill. But this mode has no effect on profile stats, so the resource tield per time unit is more important than wining or losing. At least after playing this mode for weeks. And it’s so bad with all the auto-aim weapons used, that I readily accept an easy way to reduce the grind. I get my two or five wins, maybe grind some more wires, and I’m out for the day.
Now, how do you feel knowing you may have contributed to farming efficiency being reduced for this mode in the future? 
The fuel modules could get banned, the wires yield could get reduced. All because you missed the point that some players were helping everyone get rich faster, including yourself.
Aren’t you tired, playing this for over 40 days? Me, I’ve had enough of having to contend with this auto-aim crap where I have to dodge for minutes and can barely line up a shot with my Avengers or Crickets. I want to learn, to improve, get better, get real good at these helicopters, but I’m tired and upset with how unbalanced this mode can be. The developers must’ve realized these exploits in closed testing. The auto-aim part was even advertised, at least in the dev stream for the update. So the mode wasn’t designed to be fair. Yes, we can compete against the auto-aimers and try to play it competitively, but it’s not designed for balanced competition. It’s a crapfest disaster of a brawl with crazy high wires gains. In the end, the only certainties in this mode are how much time I spent on it and how many wires I got. 
I made at least 10K plastic in the Chase raid, by joining 3 Gravastar towers, or similar, with my Incinerator car. At times, I was barely sitting up in my chair, zoning out and back into the action, barely registering what was going on, in that quasi-out-of-body state. But I perservered. For a few days, until accruing some bad sleep debt, I was able to outlast the strongest grinders, and without any coffee, etc., which I don’t drink. I know what a ‘speedfarming Hell’ is like. I’m sure that these clanned-up players that you mentioned are doing just that, and they mean no ill to anyone. And you benefit too, by grinding wires faster, in a mode that’s not really good for much else. 
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You’re not actually asking for fairness. You have fairness, now. Every weapon being “exploited” is available for every player.
What you’re asking for is actually for every weapon - specifically the ones you like playing with - to be viable in every mode. For that to happen, they’d have had to nerf the heck out of a bunch of weapons just so you get to play with your favorite toys mounted to helicopters.
THAT wouldn’t be “fair.”
I despise that word… “fair.” Rarely is it used correctly.
When the event started, I hadn’t used pyres in a very long time. They’re simply not that viable in other modes. I didn’t even own caucuses or hawks. I did own a Falcon, but don’t know where it came from & had literally never used it other than trying it out a time or two & not liking it.
All of those weapons are equally available to every player. You included.
I quickly learned pyres were going to be very good in this mode, so I built accordingly.
I read here about the quadcopter drones being effective, so I tried out what I had & then got more of them.
I saw how effective the caucus was, and although I have never liked that thing, I bought two of 'em for the mode.
All of that is fair…
This sad “those weapons aren’t fair” mentality isn’t wanting fairness. It’s players wanting to be made competitive without them having to adapt… which is kinda’ integral to what the game is all about.
A good analogy would be me attempting to compete in the “Big Races” brawl with a Trucker cab & then complaining that the Growl is “unfair.”
Yawn. Use the tool appropriate for the job.
Another little thought… the guys using those weapons also have to deal with other players using them as well. Yeah, when guys with those weapons see some dude lining up a shot with Tsunamis, we know they’re an easy target, so we go after them. But, we’re also having to avoid Pyres & Caucs just like everyone else. So, instead of insisting that I be allowed to carefully line up a shot, I have practiced enough with the copter blades to be able to duck behind buildings, hills, and even fly into parking garages.
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I even play this mode when i run out of wires. It ain’t about the wires for me I just find it fun. I also had 4 upgraded pyres and a upgraded range increase caucasus before the event started that i use nearly daily so when people see me using weapons that are considered cancer for this game mode I just got lucky that this event favors weapons that i naturally use in regular pvp before the event even started lol. I already had the upgraded version of these parts for nearly a year. I can see your point too but I still think it is shady stuff to be at, like why are people even playing if they find the grind that bad go play a different game. Than again I don’t find raids fun which I only play for resources so I might be being a hypocrite.
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It is all the devs fault, lawless corrupted crossout. I did the same for a couple of the above players, sent the evidence and they are still at it suiciding in off we go. I guess there is no best way to report cheaters so it is confirmed the devs does nothing to these cheating players, it is not in their financial interest or they are too lazy.
Thanks for this info, I didn’t expect anyone’d want to play this mode for extended periods without earning wires, just for fun. Maybe it’s because I’m burned out in general. Without Hans, I can’t have fun with the Clarinet, so I’ve been doing daily and season challenges for the most part. I think I can imagine that it’s fun with having those weapons upgraded long before the brawl and just rocking them daily. Also, on day one, I thought that the brawl is a ‘vindication’ of sorts for all those players using homing missiles, which are less effective on ground vehicles or hovercrafts. So, on the one hand, I’m genuinely glad for you, while still feeling ambiguous, at the very least, about heving to fight those weapons. And I didn’t mean to complain about the weapons. I accept the mode as a whole, with all that happens in it, and play it as much as I can, trying to give it my best shot. I guess it must be similar to being on the receiving end of the Clarinet. 
In that case, I can accept this as punishment for my sins. I’ll be the first to admit that the Clarinet is one cheat weapon. 
Now, something else (not related in any way to anything nobler1500 said), which I probably don’t need to address.
I’ll use this opportunity to clarify that did not say I wanted any weapons re-balanced or changed in any way, in relation to the helicopter brawl, in the name of however perceived “fairness.” But do I really have to be making this addendum? An unfortunate allegation to that effect appeared elsewhere in this thread. I resorted to private communication in the game, and asked, “what do you mean?” Not receiving a reply for some minutes from an account that was online and idle, I followed up with a more specific question: “did I say I want any weapon to get re-balanced for the mode?” Well over an hour later, the account is still online, continuously queueing for battle after battle. There was plenty of time to reply. It’s a clear case of a parasite using others for some sick entertainment, by pretending they said something they did not. Trolling, if you will. A best-case scenario. Another possibility would be a mind so far gone that it distorts its perception of reality without any particular goal in mind, as if seeking pretexts to get offended. Either case is insane and I refuse to be dragged into such nonsense by some liar with no honor, no semblance of basic decency. It’s crazy, how I was talking about the whole mode in general, in a rather neutral fashion, not suggesting any changes to the game, yet some liar will desperately try to find ways to promote some bizarre agenda, insulting a random person for some warped immediate gratification. I’ve met with exactly the same kind of behavior numerous times on this forum. They’re just trolls that try to build an image by insulting people at random. It’s not ‘edgy,’ or whatever. It’s primitive and pathetic.
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I don’t know if you’re referring to me or not. It looks that was, but what do I know?
If you were…
I don’t recall insulting you. I did call out your complaints about “fairness,” but you’re far from the only one to complain about it.
As for messaging me or anyone else in the game for what was said here…
There are 4 people who play on my account. 3 are children & are instructed to not use the chat in-game. If they ignore you, they’re doing as instructed.
If you wish to clarify something said here, it might be a good idea to clarify it here.
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Any game with auto aim weapons and things like Levi Wars instantly puts this in game the non-competitive category.
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Its not the devs fault. They dont deal with that stuff. The game just has the worst moderators ive ever experienced in any game ive ever played in the entirety of my life. Its truly pathetic how biased they are amd how poorly they make their decicions. Its like they were hired out of a Mcdonalds that staffs mentally challenged people.
waits for ban
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I really want to disagree with you and tell you you’re blowing things out of proportion… Exaggerating imagined slights… Being paranoid.
I want to do that, but since I agree with everything you said, I won’t.
They’ll ban someone for cussing in chat while there are players with usernames like “W3tPu55y7ick3r” zipping around.
Are they mentally ill or what?
Some people see competition in everything. I wasn’t talking about competitive players, but about Crossout as a competitive game.
All a bit exaggerated, they use existing mechanisms. You could call it annoying at best. Kinda like Porc 5k sealclubber