Blocking your team is an existing mechanism just like strapping on fuel barrels so what have that got to do with anything. At least the dudes getting seal clubbed at 5k got a shot of winning, when I got one of those suicide fuel barrelers on my team there is a 0% chance of winning. Id rather face aimbotters and wallhackers at least there is hope.
Blocking your team is unsportive behaviour, fuel barrel builds are only annoying. Itās pretty amazing that that didnāt surface until the very end of Helicopter Brawl.
And it always existed in the game just like fuel barrels always existed that was your previous argument that made zero sense.
The tos is vague for a reason. Blocking your team is annoying and the fuel barrels fall under other actions that violate fair play because it gives you a 0% chance of winning the match. They got quote āfair playā listed under unsportive behavior for a reason so they can include when exploits like the suicide fuel barrelers crop up during events. Off we go fuel barrelers are every bit just as much if not more a bannable offence as blocking your team is. Just because a specific action is not specifically listed under the tos doesnāt mean it is not listed or make it any lesss of a bannable offence than the ones that are. It is left vague for when unforeseeable exploits that randomly crop up from events just like this.
Fuel barrel exploit is perfectly described by 3 sections of the unsporting conduct section of the tos. section 7.1.1, 7.1.2 and 7.1.4. If that donāt qualify has unsporting conduct than nothing is.
how is having a 0% chance of winning fair, less fair than aim bots, it is a little more than just annoying with the way your trying to sugar coat it.
You are trying to villainize me with the 5k seal club video which is not going to work. Using porcs at 5k does not damage your team, is not exploiting a bug, error or flaw and does not violate the principles of fair play. Fuel barrel suicide bombers however does those exact things I just listed. It is damaging your team, exploiting a flaw and also violates fair play because it is not fair to your team.
Blocking team members has always been a TOS violation. Fuelbarrel builds are as old as XO, just a tactic and not very effective outside of this brawl, I can see why you get so excited about it and why it spoils your gameplay. But that has nothing to do with cheating. That is caused by how this brawl mode works, 10k points and respawning. Personally, I was quickly done with this mode which makes it very attractive for all kinds of cheese tactics. And you donāt need to feel attacked about 5k porc comment, I used it as an example to show that views on what constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct can be very different depending on which side you are on, winning or losing.
The part where I said just because something is not listed in the tos donāt mean it is not a violation of the tos went right over your head. I say the reason this havenāt been weeded out yet is because it did not become a thing until the very end of the event unlike the skinner exploit from the big chase that was exploited from the very beginning.
Here are some more snippets from the tos I donāt even see how this is even debatable. I already said the devs intentionally leave the tos vague to prevent things like this and that part seemed to have went over your head as well
The difference between you and me that I can appreciate a creative trick and you clearly donāt if you think it will hurt you. And all those TOS examples, you are not the one who determines whether something is debatable or not, good luck.
Not one thing you said made one ounce of sense. Everything I said including the tos still gone over your head. All common logic right out the window.
You cant even get scores like that using a aim bot so trying to sugar coat it as a simple trick got me baffled. You just talkin out your rear at this point only way to explain it cause nothing you say make zero sense. I donāt think you even read the tos which is definition of ignorance. How can you come here try and have a debate about the rules thinking your right without even reading the rules. You didnāt quote me, try to provide examples no nothing to try and prove your point. Your purposefully ignoring almost everything I said, I explained exactly how it violates the tos and it is like falling on deaf ears. Basically your only argument is have a sense a humor because you think it is a trick, well an aim bot is a computer trick as well going by that logic so I guess we can all use aim bots because it is a trick, awesome logic. I can trick old people into giving me money by pretending to be antivirus salesmen tricking them into thinking they got viruses on their pc but it is ok because it is a trick.
What these players are doing especially the ones that queue up with clan members opposite the fuel barrelers are violating the tos whither you think it is funny or not. I even found it funny for a while and you read back far enough you will see where I said that but they are still breaking the rules in multiple ways and nothing you say can change that fact.
You have to just give up on a conversation at some point.
People struggle to report others on PC?
Iāve sent a dozen reports in 5 years, never struggled a second. Right-click the name in the score screen, report. Am I missing something? @________@
Iām a bit late to the party, but anyone who intentionnally blocks an ally in XO really failed to understand what team games are about, and should take a week to breathe and reconsider their life choices.
There are no valid reason whatsoever to get so red in the face about a videogame that you waste your time to ruin another personās time on it. The moment you catch yourself doing it, pull the plug and go do something constructive like practicing your drawing or musical skills lol.
Well said, my man.
The point of the thread is what is the ābestā way to report. The best way so far turned out not to be the in game report but this right here
You were already told what you could do at the very beginning of this thread. Just report that you think that style of play is illegal. And let the administration decide whether it is a violation or whether game mode needs to be changed etc etc. But you accuse players, in public, of cheating here on the forum. Incidentally, I and others have said several times that the game mode in question provokes this kind of tactics, similar to Big Chase, a simple solution would be, as someone said before, ban fuel barrels in this mode. Accusing players of cheating on this forum, because Devs overlooked this, is not my way of looking at these things. XO is a fun game, a bit of tinkering with vehicles, game-play on the other hand is very poorly developed and not worth playing competitively so I canāt worry about the trick in helicopter mode either. Ah well, mode is gone, up to next dumb mode
Never seen kox at it again so I accomplished something by going public and letting everyone know about the issue so it probably turns out that the best way to report cheaters is by shouting on the forum. This thread got over 600 views so hopefully if there is another helicopter brawl this will get fixed but it is going to be hard to fix the matchmaking that the kox clan were also exploiting on top of the fuel barrels. I didnāt accuse them of cheating I proved they were cheating totally different, and you are not denying you didnāt read the rules either.
Maybe Iām dumb, but why do they even need the fuel barrels to throw the game in favour of their clan mates?
If the point is to give them easy kills, why not just make a car with low HP and allow yourself to be killed?
If they are using the fuel barrels as a weapon, then why is that a problem? At least theyāre still scoring some points for your team.
They do have low hp and the fuel barrels I believe are to make you die faster and I am not sure but I think it gives them extra points when that player do get destroyed. They are not using fuel barrels as a weapon, where on earth did you manage to extract that idea out of everything that was mentioned in this thread? The fuel barreler also had stillwinds in the video if you didnāt notice.
Didnāt watch your video, thatās why I asked if thatās what you meant.
Still doesnāt make sense, unless thereās some bug that gives excess points for destroying fuel barrels.
I seem to remember fuel barrels being banned in some modes (maybe the Head On brawl?) because they can be used as weapons, so if the devs see it as a problem they can do it.
Maybe the damage from the explosion of the fuel barrels (and/or generators and ammo packs) gets counted in addition to direct damage, but that means youād have to ban all explosive parts, which wouldnāt really work for this mode.
Even if you did all that, thereās nothing to stop someone from putting all their HP and guns connected to a single low durability part.
I guess report the individual players and hope for the best? Iāve yet to see this, but I havenāt been playing that mode much lately.
I am going to re answer your questions in order to keep the confusion to a minimal
So they will die faster and make the game over quicker, more matches per hour equals more wires for their clan and also guarantee victories if they are just in it for the wins or both.
The cars are already low hp and adding fuel barrels creates one giant bullseye that will insta kill. They donāt self destruct, all it takes is for just enough damage to set off just one fuel barrel to kill the player so the enemy team can get a quick and easy score.
They are not using fuel barrels as a weapon. Usually they carry a primary weapon like the stillwinds in the video just to score the minimal amount of points required to get wires. Sometimes they donāt even do that much and score nothing at all.
I donāt know how the point system works my own self all I knows is that the person destroying them gets a decent amount of points