Why should I feel bad for taking 5 minutes to win?

I don’t know why you people still bother with chats. It’s virtually useless.

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I agree 100%

You get a lot of people that complain about being bullied in XO. They can just “Not chat” - But they don’t because they feed off of the drama.

They secretly love it.

If not then they would just not do it.

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I agree 82.9%. It’s the first feature I disabled when I started playing, and it’s stayed that way for four years. However, in pvp, team work kills, and it’s pretty useful for that, maybe? IDK. It’s not worth it, IMO.

I accidentally enabled voice chat once, and it was just some guy dropping the f-bomb like it was a barbed turd, over and over, grunting nothing else. I listened to it in disbelief for about 20 seconds, but that was the only word spoken; “Fuuhgk…”

Not my thing, but generally people are sociable animals and enjoy participating in conspiracies of all sorts, like sports, politics, business, church, etc. Literally, everything is a conspiracy. Otherwise, without all the conspiracies I’d need more chickens and a goat probably…I’d be OK with that, though.

I do like team work, so I’m glad somebody out there makes an effort to be coordinated or whatever, but I’ll have nothing to do with it. Hunting parties don’t require that much conversation, and the in-game graphical queues (hand signals, essentially) work fine for me.

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100%
They also love to whine about it to see if people will coddle them

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But if I turn off chat, how will I see what Howling Wolf is up to? :wink::joy:

Probably ranting incoherently about how he buys packs to mods and will get everybody banned, as usual < ’ >_< ’ >

The entire team will die in 30s flat if multiple teammates are droners because droners are utterly worthless in the pvp meta; they are just a liability. The droner will cripple, degun, or immobilize nobody while the enemy players that aren’t droners do precisely that. This is why droners are universally disliked; worthless players in a team game who’se only use is killing distracted bots slowly or bullying slow builds like a toddler beating an amputated pig with a whiffle ball bat. And when they are left last alive because all they can do is flee the moment they are shot at; they just hopelessly drag the game on with their weak gameplay fleeing from the red dots. If they played anything else they could’ve and would’ve saved their teammates by degunning/crippling enemies.

Everybody would root for the droners if they played anything else.

The disdain for drones is completely reasonable as drones offer zero positive gameplay experience. I would rework or remove this stunted class of weapon.

Kids don’t like drones, eh?
I like drones.
Sometimes I play nothing but drones.
Sometimes I get MVP playing them too.

My preferred play-style is rusty cars and guns on wheels.
Your garbage META makes that near impossible to enjoy.

Anything other than the one or two META builds in this game is basically set up to loose.
So, good luck playing anything else.
See what I did there?

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Doc, I know you love your low PS cars.
And have at it brother, more power to you.

But you don’t even play at a PS where Meta builds are. So how would you even know if it is only 2 two builds?

Low PS is not high PS.
They are not even comparable.

Once you hit 14k the match maker stops splitting up PS. Everyone from 14k - 20k gets lumped up in the same matches. This makes for a ton different builds your going to see in PvP missions. The only place your going to see heavy Meta only builds is high end CWs.

Firstly, I don’t even know what you think the word “META” means. It seems subjective and circumstantial when you speak of it. So, there’s zero chance I’m going to try and understand what it means to you today. It’s just not happening.

Secondly, I’m glad you didn’t actually get the message (or did you :eyes:), as it wasn’t really intended for you anyway…could be if you want it to be, though…but if you like “Fun with Words,” have at it. It was a little cryptic and a lot saucy, and probably just mean, so maybe it’s better that it only amuses me.

And finally, wow, that elevator sure goes high. How’s the air way up there?

Trust me, there’s a metagame at low PS too. When I joined this game ages ago, a solid 80% players at 2.5k were playing either 2 Junkbows+Colossus on Duster, or a Goliath Caucasus/Wasp Hunstman brick lol. At 4 k it was Hover Scorp Colossus on WT1. Teams of 4 men, most rounds (^:

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The meaning never changes to me. We only have one definition.

Meta builds are only the best of the best of the best and this can only be achieved at high PS.

We had a giant conversation about this the other day in an other thread because some people seemed to not understand what it means. Many people where calling anything with spaced armor or hovers META, but it is much much more then that.

Lesser low PS version don’t count. Because they are just that “Lesser versions”. You may have the best build at a lower PS bracket but it can never be the “Most Effective” because it is using inferior parts.

The “Most Effective” builds in the game can only be built at the top.

Everyone else is just playing a baby version of what META is at lower PS levels. They are trying to mimic what META is at their level.

I get what your saying, but those are just the best builds for lower PS brackets - they can not meet the criteria for the best in game. So they fail to meet the “Most” in the first letter.

It’s not “Most” in your bracket. It’s “Most” in the whole game.

Playing the best low level car is just that, play the best “low level” car.

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I generally don’t subscribe to using meta as an acronym. It’s some backwards thing a gamer invented because he was too tired to google the actual definition. But even going by those rules… Most Effective Tactic… Available :wink:

The best build of the game period isn’t available at 4k (^:

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100% agree - because all PS levels and builds are “Available” - META only include the “Most” which is the top.

:wink:

We already went over this in the other thread.
“Available” does not mean “Available to you” it means “Available in game”

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xD I see your point. Lets agree to disagree here tho :stuck_out_tongue:

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That sound like a elitist problem

I agree and this is true

Also true, but elites up in those high PS think “meta” only there’s

Nah, I’m gonna have to disagree, that’s kinda snobby of you to say that, an elitist thing to say, I don’t play high ps builds outside of raids much because high ps is boring, but I can and have made builds as high as 20k ps and proper functioning builds not ps inflated builds

Again coming off as snobby, as you even said meta is the best of the best builds, guess what that applies to all ps not just ones over 14k ps

I’m not trying to be rude but rubbing the fact you play at high ps scores means your experience is more valid is elitist and kinda snobby
“Meta” is meta and isn’t tied to how high your ps is or how much money you have to throw at the game as you clearly like to brag about how you fused everything and how much the cost of your items are, you may not realize it but that’s actually off-putting.

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No one said this but you.

I always defend lower PS players on the forum.

But words are words - you can’t change them to match what you feel like it should mean.

And of course it sounds elitist - because that is who made up the word - not me.

Not a brag, this is a problem you have with how you read what I say.

When I talk about things I can only talk about what I have and everything I have is fused. I can’t change that. These are just facts.

Should I act like everything I own is not fused?

It all depends on how we define “available”.
To me, it’s about what is available to use at that PS (or for a specific situation, like raids or leviathan CW).
To Monkey, it’s about what’s available in the entire game, and that’s also a fair interpretation.

I would argue that the PS system means that it makes more sense to define “available” in relation to that system. But I also see the arguments against it.

But as a former writer, I think the best way to facilitate conversations here is to specify if you mean META within a PS range or if you mean it to refer to only high PS. Monkey can still disagree that there is a low PS META, but we can also talk about what builds are OP in low/mid PS without having to invent a whole new term.

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