Ok, so to prove your theory, what should I see if I build right at one of those levels, and play for a while? If it’s true, there should be a way for me to find evidence, even with the variables.
I actually find queue times pretty short most of the time on PS4, unless I go too low in PS, or try an unpopular brawl.
Well, if you build at the top of the bracket then you hope to get more battles where you are on the higher end of the PS in the match, giving you a PS advantage over your opponents.
It’s all about advantage.
Oh! Also I forgot!
Bots!
Bots change with brackets.
You can tell if you get pulled up by the bots alone.
You and your brackets. Whatever. 
I give up.
And, I gave up. No matter how hard I try to argue my point, in the end, I still suck at this game and clearly don’t know what I’m doing. So, I gave up. I gave up and just downloaded something off the exhibition that I thought was META, or was at least responsible for most of my casualties. I was forced to admit that my way was very wrong, and it was time to let somebody else into the garage and show me how it’s done.
Is that pay to win? I had to buy the Augers and Goblins, but I already had the other stuff (this is on my p2p account). It sure wins. I thought they nerfed Augers? This thing’s brutal in PVP. Pretty too.
I’ll stop my btchn now, and just go brutalize some people. Cheers.
I would increase your PS to 6499. You will get the same matches but be stronger.
Congrats on the new gear by the way.
That ride def looks really cool.
I made an auger/gremlin build recently, and it shreds. Good fun!
No… sorry… those builds do less of that than pretty much any builds out there. They’re the most cut & dry builds there are. Have you actually played any of them?
The one I slightly modified & am using daily is anything but a “meta” build - either by your definition or the more widely described definition. It’s just a well constructed & balanced machine gun build. No frills… no tricks… just good design.
My final thoughts:
I think this game is pay to advance, or pay to advance quicker.
Some people will call this game pay to win regardless of what anyone here says.
Agreed
What is the more widely described definition; Most Effective “Tactic” Available?" That’s splitting hairs, unless you have something more divergent in mind.
They rely very heavily on spaced armor, and the parts are, for their level, selected very carefully for the most effective results. They are the Most Effective Techniques Available to beginners. I don’t see the difficulty with defining them as META. Looks like a duck, walks like a duck.
I have. They are very efficient, and affordable. I think at one point he posted his reason for not defining them as META, but rather as EAB, and I think it was along the lines of, “because they aren’t using the most effective parts in the game, but rather the most efficient parts available to new guys,” so he developed his own term. I think he realizes how META they are, but Charlie can speak for himself. Maybe he’ll clarify his disambiguation, but I think it’s a distinction without a difference beyond affordability and accessibility to aces.
I’d go even further and suggest that his builds are even more META than what is generally considered META, because of his refined technique of building with even more efficiency and discipline. He’s purposely confined his META to what is accessible to beginners.
Charlie is a wasteland saint.
For some bizarre reason we don’t have a duck honker here. Like, pure duck. Or, at the very least, a decoy one.
META is really only the best of the best of the best.
You can put a TOW missile on a space armor hover, but that does not make it a META Build.
My understanding is that it is literally the “Most Effective Technique (tactic) Available.” How is what Charlie is doing not that? It’s the Most Effective Technique Available to aces on a budget. Or maybe, you’re not contesting what I said about Chuck’s builds. I think they are very META.
I think it’s also very obvious that stuff wouldn’t work in reality, but relies on this games departure from reality, and is defined by some of the wonky features of this game’s physical models.
One last edit: I’m not saying they aren’t clever builds. They very much are, but come on. He’s got an ATM for a rear bumper.
It’s amazing how many debates here are mostly about language and how we use it differently.
Linguistics! Not just for university students!
I do like his project, but nothing he is doing is meta. His project has rules forcing him to use what is free and not the best.
I Meta user only uses the best, not the best that they have on hand, the best in the game period.
The “most” effective.
Just because you make an effective build, does not make it the “most” effective in its bracket.
I just Charlie is working on a “NETA” project lol.
No0b Effective Technique Available
Which is a good thing, it’s just not META.
His project has rules that force him to use the Most Effective Techniques Available. He just is more limited to what is available. What is available has to be accessible to aces.
I don’t understand what your hang up is with that definition. It’s textbook. Is there a different one, I’m not aware of?
We will agree to disagree.
The META does not conform to a rule. It is the best of the best the game has to offer.
That is what the “MOST” stands for.
You are simply refraining from defining it, is what you’ve done. Just tell me. It’s an acronym. What does it stand for? Is it a secret?
Most = to the greatest extent
This only counts the best of the best items in game.
Not free noob gear.(unless that gear is the best)
