Does fusing give an unfair advantage?

We are talking about a small increase to help low PS players.

Like I said before, I don’t care about this subject. The PS increases would not affect my gameplay. I’m skilled enough to compensate.

If you can’t see how this would help new players then no amount of explaining will convince you.

The vets have always been the poison in this game.

I’ve already explained It will not help new players and make more problems but you didnt bother to read or dont understand.

Idc too for myself but Im not looking only at the top of my nose and Im thinking about others.

Yes I cant see it and you dont even try to explain it to me like I did it to you, thats why theres no chance that you can convince me.

This is what all n00bs always say or ppl who feel lost in game and cant handle ezz things.
Not saying your’re one of them!

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I don’t see how few people play it. And that’s fine, the less the better.

I fully understand.

I’m also thinking of other.

Again, I would like to say, I don’t care about this thread. The forum is here for my enjoyment. Thank you.

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Your argument against increasing PS was a fallacy. It helps new players because they dont fuse.

Would you rather: a fully fused build at 5k PS or an unfused build? For this question, assume same cabin, weapons, modules, etc. The obvious answer is fused. And that is what newer players face.

I am for fusion reform but that is a separate discussion from this one. Increasing PS doesnt impact any CW player. It helps newer players and doesnt hurt vets that play with end game gear.

Sorry vets spent lots of time and money. The good news is it still helps them 100% in CW and at top PS battles.

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Uhh rly? Ok I see you also dont understand many aspects and you dont have wide spectrum of view, let me explain it in other way which I didnt mention before.

Then how about new players who just started playing crossout and will buy the battle pass and get upgraded parts. Who do not have any experience, dont know yet what and how things works, but want to play the game. Unfortunately they don’t have a choice and they have to use their new upgraded parts because they don’t have any others, what do you say to those players who will have to play with other players with more experience or better weapons at higher power score?

You see whats my point?

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Fuses would still help low and mid PS too. This change does not negate the advantage of fused items.

Also, the increase in PS would be on a sliding scale, a little bit more as the rarity goes up. So dudes trying to bring higher tier weapons into low PS would be affected more then guys that have lower tier fused gear.

And yes, we also need to look at fuse reform, but like you said that is a different topic.

I’ll take the time at some point to put together a comprehensive fuse reform document. To also include PS increase.

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Fused BP items should 100% have higher PS.

Then we can get the dev team to stop needing to nerf the original non-fused item into the ground to compensate for everyone having fused versions of the item.

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You are creating another problem dont you see it?
As I said it before , “think twice before wishes”

This is fixing a problem and it’s OK that you don’t see it.

Having a different view point is how we have a conversation :slight_smile:

If you could cut out the stuff where you try to look down on people it might help your point.

I’m sure everyone here are thinking, they just don’t all think like you. But again :slight_smile: different views is how we have a conversation.

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Actually, no. I can’t say fusing gives “unfair” advantage. It gives some advantage but I can’t say it’s gamebreaking. Moreover, it’s not paywalled (unless you want to shorten the grind by whaling up a sum for some coins).

But what is the problem that matchmaking does not take fused items into consideration (maybe it does but I don’t have evidence of that). That could be problem only if a fully fused team fight against fully non-fused team, but a problem nonetheless.

And this is what it would combat against most.

Guys with a few fused items wouldn’t even be affected.

Fully fused out build would feel the increase more.

All my gear is fused - so I’m “that guy” shooting fish in the barrel, but at least I know it and I’m not going to act like a fully 100% fused build is not night and day.

Even funnier - your going to get 4 man groups with fully fused builds trying to defend their “skill”

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Since you’re just using generalities or focusing on my form of communication, which doesn’t matter at all, what you want to say adds nothing to this conversation, so I’ll ask you

WHY?

Do you know whats a purpose of nerfing items in game (besides crybabies)?
Do you realize what kind of politics the devs have and how they force players to spend more money on other items?

Can you stop focusing on useless things and actually add something constructive? You’re not my mom buddy.
If you want act like a sheriff you should focus on others too bc they’re offending my intelligence :crazy_face:

Yes they do think but problem is they’re blind bc of lack of experience

Btw Im still waiting for Claysdad answer :rofl:

Actually it does mater. Irrelevant and unfounded accusations of people not thinking? Or not knowing what they are talking about is your poorly executed way to try and dismiss what others are saying.

Again, this only makes you look bad. No one is impressed. It’s does the exact opposite.

The only one “offending” your intelligence as you put it is you sir. The rest of us are ready to have a conversation without attacks.

I already explained the why. Again, you don’t have to agree.

Most of the people here on the forums are vets. They may not be the same type of player as you, but they all have experience.

But as mentioned multiple times. No one is impressed by your level or gear or CW battles, none of that mater when we are discussing different view points.

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This topic is generally non-sense.

It might have some sense in missions, but in CW it have zero sense.

in CW powerscore dont really matter for searching enemy team match, so fuses also dont matter even if they would add PS to item.

btw.

You are not from same country as he and me, but based on nickname, its how often childs create accounts using their name and add some fashionable endings. Thats why i will never belive him that he is older. same about spamming emotes ofc.

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You’re still doing this lol Dude dont try to teach me psychology bc you know nothing about that Mr. Freud.

What kind of attacks? Stating facts, explaining and countering all your arguments you call attacks?

You didnt explained anything besides saying it will help new players which I have countered and explained detail by detail why this argument is false.

No they’re no vets , rly smal group of ppl are vets but not most as you said, they think they’re vets but ist not true, vets never act like this.
I’ve checked some ppl pc accounts who was claiming they’re vets and they dont even have any legendarys.
What do you mean by vets? Ppl who never play cw? or who are not interested in fusing any items :rofl:

I dont know why you’re focusing on it ,does it hurts you whats in my garage, I rly dont care what ppl think and Im not trying to exalt myself , Its only you whos pointing this. In fact Im a rly humblle guy always ready to help ppl in need and you know nothing about me. Thats why Im asking you plz stop talking nonsense.

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Exactly.

This will only affect missions. Which is a good thing.

His age and country do not mater to me.
I’m sure he still knows when he is talking down to people. It is obvious he thinks it gives him some form of advantage.

Maybe it’s because instead of having a friendly chat he is trying to “win” the conversation.

Their is no winning or losing, only different view points.

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The answer I gave was: fusing blue weapons
Obviously, if it is unfair to use high rarity then fusing low rarity, it is voluntary

I’m going to ignore all your personal insults, because none of them actually have anything to do with me.

I will however address your main argument about how this could hurt new players who got bad fuse results.
As has been explained over and over in this thread (I guess you keep “stop reading” before you grasp this point), we are talking about a small PS boost per item.
This means that a new player with a couple badly fused items will not see their PS change significantly. It would really only be the players running fully fused builds that would see a real bump, and even in those cases it wouldn’t be forcing people using all fused special items to go up against people with all epic builds. Instead, they would be playing against others with all-fused specials, or they could drop some armour and face the same unfused special builds they were before.

None of this should be a big deal, especially to a player with your level of experience.

Is this how you communicate with people in real life too? Or are you just like this on the internet?

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i see the points on both sides,but i think you all are missing a big point…

‘The Match Maker’

mm struggles enough as it is to find players to fill a match within 1 minute.
plus…we can’t forget the crazy Bots :crazy_face:

are all the bots fused? or just some of them?
we all played this when we first loaded the game and never had any problems to make it this far.

adding ps to fused items sounds good but it will do more harm than good-it’s why they stayed away from that…

anyone remember what it was like when you first started playing xo ?
maybe your first 7 chords…that was fun
or your first set of tracks?
mine was my first hurricanes…then sadly the ps bumped up and i sold them…

'sorry for the interruption …carry on :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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