Does fusing give an unfair advantage?

The very fact that different people prefer different upgrades show me that the uprades themselves are fairly balanced. (there is always BIS for min/max numbers)

This leads me to believe this thread is really just a matter of lazy people expecting life to hand them whatever they want just because they complain.

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Then you don’t understand the thread.

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i belive he just meant last posts, topic itself is different ofc.

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That makes more sense :slight_smile: forgive me

I do understand the thread. I have posted a few times in it in fact.

I believe the discussion was about if fusing gives an unfair advantage, not which upgrade is better.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

This would pertain directly to this topic. I have participated in the discussion honestly and reached my conclusion. I do think this thread is about lazy people that just don’t want to farm their own upgrades like every one else before them.

Upgrades are earned advantages. Earn them. (Or buy them.)

Life is hard, but unfair.

Right, but they just want add additional PS for fuse, it solve everything while fuses are still there untouched.

ofc its not like i want it myself, its fine for me how it is now.

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This thread is far from about lazy people.
This is about slight increase in PS to adjust the punishment of fully fused builds at lower PS ranges.

It does not take away the advantage of fused part.

95% of my inventory is fused, even my relics, so I would be affected by the change. I still feel like it would be more far.

Disagreeing with that is 100% cool. No one can argue that you have a different opinion and I respect that.

What I can’t respect is calling people lazy because they don’t have fused gear.

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I did not call people who do not have fused gear lazy.

I said people who come here to complain about it, should spend that time working on their gear. These are who I called lazy.

I mean, I just played a new account, no upgrades. I compete perfectly fine against squads and people with upgrades. On PC the bigger platform.

This whole thread can be fixed by just playing the game.

The gap they perceive of as “I can’t win because that guy has X” is laziness.

As I stated, I have participated in this thread. But I also have recent experience from leveling a new account. I did this because of all these complaint threads about new player retention and experience.

It is absolute laziness to not improve your skills or your build in the goddam game you are claiming you want to “play”.

I get what your saying.

I do agree people have to keep clicking the play button to keep moving forward. This is the way. And you are right, that playing can even the battle field.

But I can’t be all like “hurry up you lazy ***ks, why don’t you have builds like me?” (Screenshots below just an example, not meant as a flex. I honestly feel bad for new guys)


P.S. every build I own is like this. No mater how much playing someone does, they will never catch up if they started the game today.

I feel like I’m repeating myself, but I am really not complaining about the current situation.
I have some fused stuff, and I use it. I have more unfused stuff, and I use that too.
The only reason I posted this thread is that I think it’s strange that the PS system is supposed to help keep PVP balanced, but then we have this way of bypassing that system by getting an advantage the matchmaker doesn’t recognize.

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Nor am I, I have a huge advantage over new guys.

If it stays exactly the way it is I am 100% happy.

But this is not about me.

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Sigh. I don’t need a picture of your inventory. Or even a build. You can see a pic flex of my inventory elsewhere on the forum if you need confirmation.

What you have in your inventory does not prove PS needs to be raised on fused parts. It only proves what you have in your inventory.

The intangible here, is this thread is about how much of an advantage upgrades are and not about the skill gap between new and old players. These are not two separate things. If you don’t know to shoot guns off or can’t aim well, the ps of the enemies parts don’t matter one dam bit.

Adding PS… works for what… the guys playing fing white weapons. after that the PS and weapon levels are all MIXED anyway.

I can see it making a difference in CW’s… .but how does that help newbs??

After playing a new account, this whole thread is just… sheer… cringe.

Other than mass parts should be =

totally opposite. it help newbs and not make difference in CW.

im not sure if we understand each other properly here.

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It’s ok man, this is not about inventory…

You and me are all good.

I’m going to move along now, because anything else I say is going to start to sound rude and that is not my intent.

I’m 100% happy with my excessive Advantages I current have.

that ‘slight ps’ will end up players not using decor/reputation gain and will hurt them more trying to get factions up to get Armour and bumpers ect.
i can’t even use these except my ‘why so serious horn’
now on the other hand they could make these zero ps to make up for the ‘slight ps’ and put a limit on how many you can put on…just a thought…
but i always said legends and relics should stay above 8k.




idk why you say that 100 PS(when unfused) fused part that will be 110 PS will cause them stop using decors.

so if vehicle would got 2000 PS without fuses, and 2100 PS with fuses, then they cant use decors?

higher ps example:

5000 PS unfused vs 5250 PS fused
10000 PS unfused vs 10500 PS fused
16000 PS unfused vs 16800 PS fused

i really dont see a problem here, and in CW PS dont matter for matchmaking anyway.

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players are not 5000ps they are 5990 ps or 4990 ps ect…
they don’t want to be 6000ps because they play against 7k and 8k…
i’m 7994ps…i play mostly against 7k ps/8k sometimes 9k

if i go to 8k (adding decor/rep)…i will be matched against 9k and 10k…

that’s not fun :thinking:

but you are telling like with fused parts you will be unable to make 5990 / 4990 / etc.

you will be able.

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explain how. Once you get past level 10 engineers you will be facing people with purps. At this level the PS difference won’t be noticed. Unless you are going to double the PS on anything upgraded… and extra 200 added to a build doesn’t even cover MM.

The only area it will make real separation is in CW where the difference is a couple hundred to a weapon.
Then it will only separate people with fused relics from everyone else. And then barely. (great for competition imo)

THERE IS A FUSION EVEN RIGHT NOW Public announcement.

Read above.