Game is in critical condition

[AFluffyBadger]

There needs to be immediate action taken to keep this game from completely dying, its playerbase has dropped off a cliff the past couple months. To the point where people cannot fill lobbies and get games to begin with. The emptier the lobbies become , the faster the game dies. All that will be left are those who invested too much money to quit. This game will end up with discord groups coordinating games just so they could sync queues and powerscore to get good games.

1. Less gamemodes, less is more, focus on ground combat without mech legs. Mechs are a niche market, just give up on it for now. Either remove helicopter modes or introduce a severe heli nerf that guarantees heli’s in normal matches are underpowered. -50% health from structure and reduced cabin mass limit is a start.
2. Buff new players. Make rare gear more usable by buffing bloom and ergonomics. Give wheels full reverse speed because thats all the newbies get to play, and they don’t have the experience to minmax.
3. Add more content to rare/special rarities that is permanent faction content, this will draw players down in powerscore because there is more fun stuff to play with less equipped players. Nobody wants to be stuck with boring movement parts, weapons, and modules Targem. There is nothing to play under 7k relative to 9k+. Robocraft never had this issue because Tier 1-10 was fleshed out with content.
4. Eventually remove patrol. If the game was healthy and balanced this would be an absolutely pointless gamemode.
5. Nerf the bonuses of fused parts but do not change them to something else. New players cannot get into this game when everybody left has godfused builds. World of tanks as whale-centric as it is does not have the same insane gains that this game’s fused parts have.

The last few times I’ve tried to play this game I get stuck on EU servers with half bots and 110 ping, I want the old days of 8v8 full pvp games on NA servers back.

[gangsterism]

now write it in 5 words and in russian and send it to a targem manager via mail, otherwise they will never read or understand it

[Crushade]

@AFluffyBadger

Give wheels full reverse speed because thats all the newbies get to play, and they don’t have the experience to minmax.

You are dumb.
Buff brainless bricks even more? NO WAY
They will get 0 energy engine anyway that is broken for no energy cost at all.
But at least it would remove their another broken Fin whale

But you want them to have both lol.

Noobs need stay noobs. They got aim assist bot and mouse steering anyway.
If you are noob, its your issue, not game issue.

[Clebardman]

The obsession with supposedly OP helis is really strong in this forum. Helis aren’t stronger than other builds in Next Step. Harder to get spheres, harder to give your sphere to allies.
I feel like this whole “heli OP” stems from people not reading the rules, and playing to cause mindless destruction rather than score points and win the game. I don’t give a fuck if I get demolished by helis as long as I get spheres and win the game…
I’d agree that rotors should give less tonnage, but that’s it.

Rare gear is kinda bad indeed. Vector/Rapier/Sledgehammers/Little Boys are quite trash when you compare them to their special counterparts.

More f2p and low rarity content would be awesome, but it’s obviously not going to happen. A new legendary goes for 3k coins, a new rare goes for 40c. Premium items can rise up in price and be used to artificially inflate the price of other BP parts further down the line, permanent parts can’t. Targem’s goal isn’t to make the game better by adding parts, it’s to make coins disappear so they can sell you more coins packs.

Removing Patrol would be a massive bad move. Lots of people enjoy PvE more than PvP. Just, don’t (from someone who hasn’t played patrol since 5+ years)

I agree that fusion became retarded and massively p2w when it went from 1 to 3 bonuses.

[Clebardman]

Regarding rare weapons and new low rarity items, lets entertain some suggestions:

White and blue weapons should get +20% ammo or something like that. No ammo pack needed = lower PS, and less explosive cars for newbies. It does not fix their poor performance in itself, but it keeps new players low enough to not meet scumbags playing 4k with a dual YaoGuai (that’s me).

Create some teal support weapons and items. Lots of my MOBA friends love playing support, and when they tried XO they were immediately turned off by having to grind 2 months to unlock Auroras, Barriers, Incinerators, etc.
A teal mortar (Just a scavenged tube shooting propane tanks ?), a teal laser (give it a charging gimmick too to make gameplay more varied at low level?), and a teal barrier/support drone or turret that buffs allied speed, resistance or DPS/cryo weapon that slows enemies would really open up low PS gameplay to a new audience.
Teal tracks would be neat too for tank enthusiasts.

Create some new, basic white weapons. Put them in the three basic factions workbenches. White rocket launcher for Lunatics, white AC for Nomads, white turret cannon for Scavs.

[Babuskae]

@Clebardman

I agree that fusion became retarded and massively p2w when it went from 1 to 3 bonuses.

That i don’t know, Just in another day i was wondering if it was worth it to fuse…i mean 17% more range, the base range is 100m, so will i go for all that trouble to get more 17 meters of range?
More active time, the base is 20 seconds, in the end it’s just 2 more seconds…
I don’t know if it’s P2W…feels kind of lame to me.

@AFluffyBadger

I wouldn’t go the way you proposed.
But it’s not just Crossout that’s suffering with all this from a declining player base, other games are suffering too, due to reasons outside and unrelated to the game itself.
In this case it only shows the weight of the numbers of RU players have it this game.
With this BP we saw changes in a economic level, like structural parts that aren’t free no more, i expect more changes but those changes will be not the way we like.
I mean, something is wrong when a game ( not crossout ) has a mission specially made for RU players and only for RU server where the prize is not paint or ducks or something like that but actual Can goods, 25 cans, like happened last year.
Very few games have the gravitas of COD or GTA, that have the power of disrupting the way things are going…

[Dirty_Hamster]

@Babuskae

With this BP we saw changes in a economic level, like structural parts that aren’t free no more, i expect more changes but those changes will be not the way we like.

You can still get those prestige level parts for free. The pay gold for them is just a temp thing.

[LilBrah]

Crossout was a good game. Chess was/is a good game too.

Chess had no real changes and more and more people are playing it, or paying for it.
Crossout had a ton of changes and less and less people are playing the game.

To find out whats wrong with crossout start a new game and try to grow. This was easy. Now its getting harder and harder in many ways. Loosing 20 times a match in a row in pvp or clan for a good player (someone who gets mostly the most points and is a also a nice teamplayer), the matchmaking, seems for me the biggest issue. Maybe Gaijin should solve existing issues instead of creating more and more of them by buffing and nerfing things etc. But this is only my personal opinion.

[DocSavage]

I agree, this game’s lobby needs attention. They do seem to be giving new players (and the rest of us) lots of free stuff this Christmas, but the problem seems to be player retention, and even though this is a nice sentiment, it won’t address the problem.

Even identifying the problem specifically is probably difficult, but I think it is simply unfriendly to casual users. Many of us will throw the mouse (or controller) at the screen fewer times before moving on.

Personally, I see Adventure Mode as being a part of the lobby, could and should be updated to support the casual user’s amusement. Too much could be done with this feature to list, and yet nothing at all ever happens, year after year.

I think they should wake that mode up, put a static race track in there for starters, then use it to sell their seasonal crap by dressing it up according to the seasonal themes.

Decorate this map according to whatever they are trying to sell, like if it’s Mechs, dress the bots like Mechs, and put signs in the store-fronts and along the highway alluding to the “mech-madness ahead, beware!” Or, if it’s drifter cars, dress a shop up with Japanese drift-car style, and park a few bots out front to patrol the area dressed in whatever cabs, guns, and bling they plan on selling.

Show off the goods, maybe even preemptively just to juice the market. Change up the scenery often, add new stuff, Easter eggs, road signs, a random damsel in road-distress (“Help, I busted the radiator…bling!”). Give the casual user a reason to see what’s new in the wasteland today, without all the sweaty dedication.

Instead, this game goes straight to the grind, with very little focus on the game environment. It doesn’t invite you into immersion or a fantasy escape so much as it thrusts you immediately into rush-hour traffic, competing with a lot of people with something to prove. Not very many people give that big a shit about video games, and can find friendlier entertainment. They sort of ask a lot from their players.

[AFluffyBadger]

Since when do bricks press S mate? Can you think for a second?

[gangsterism]

when they run into a wall at 150 kmh and have to reverse to get out before you do any damage to them

[지대공_전투기]

Check out my article. This would be a better solution than reducing the number of game modes.

This game needs a feature to queue for multiple game modes simultaneously

As the number of Crossout players continues to decline, it’s becoming increasingly difficult to find matches, and the number of non-functional servers is also rising. I believe improving the queue system is a necessary solution to address this issue. Here is the improvement I propose: Allow players to select multiple game modes they want to play and choose multiple preferred servers. This way, players with overlapping game mode preferences can be matched together to start a game. Increased P…

• I am korean and i playing on RU server with 230 ping. this is pain

[Zarrurer]

@AFluffyBadger

Eventually remove patrol.

if your saying remove patrol vs ai and make it solely pvp you can leave. i would absolutely quit this game if this happened because i cannot be bothered to do pvp. i hate pvp.
i have seen a massive surge in players doing patrol vs ai though.

@AFluffyBadger

Add more content to rare/special rarities that is permanent faction content

no, add more content in general thats permanent, enough with this fucken temporary shit that in the next damn pass requires that battlepass item to craft, i am absolutely sick and tired of this and its nothing but a damn scam and a cash grab. they are being so scummy with their monitization tactics and im tired of it. want a perfect example of this? look no further then the Nemesis. it requires the lucifer AND the jackie to make, both battlepass items and are stupidly expensive in the market.

@Clebardman

I feel like this whole “heli OP” stems from people not reading the rules, and playing to cause mindless destruction rather than score points and win the game. I don’t give a fuck if I get demolished by helis as long as I get spheres and win the game…

helis are op because they have alot more to work with then ground builds. on ground builds your limited to the ground and have limited firing angles. on a heli you have the entire sky to work with and a much bigger area, sure your vulnerable to things like bots and their bs accuracy but other then that alot of ground builds cannot hit you, on top of this to they are very hard to hit in the air even with AA rifles like the starfall and the cyclones. i have alot of difficulty unless they come into my territory on the ground. if they are in the air they are free to strip you and kill you easily and its not fair to us ground players.

@Clebardman

A new legendary goes for 3k coins

ps4 would like to have a word with you on them prices.
when a new legendary is released it skyrockets to like 9k easily. itll go down overtime but if the item is required for a relic then it shoots up drastically.

@LilBrah

Loosing 20 times a match in a row in pvp

this is part of the reason i quit pvp because of the amount of losses i get. its not fun to lose like 15 or 20 matches in a row so i gave up and moved to pve. plus having only one life in patrol is just depressing. id rather respawn and have fun instead of sit there and watch my team be stupid.

[DocSavage]

@Zarrurer

i have seen a massive surge in players doing patrol vs ai though.

I think the better-bots make PVE more interesting, for sure. I think they make PVP more interesting too, actually. I think they are in a good spot right now, and I can see me playing more PVE of some sort.

[MudnBeer]

@AFluffyBadger

Eventually remove patrol. If the game was healthy and balanced this would be an absolutely pointless gamemode.

what? have u become Retarded ?
pvp is a mess…my go to is Patrol…
what game are u playing?

[AFluffyBadger]

PVP needs to be fixed and patrol needs to go. People only play it because targem screwed pvp up. The playerbase is too goddamn small to have so many gamemodes.

Wheels need full reverse speed because noobs have zero fucking chance. ZERO. They have no op stats or perks to bruteforce players with, they have no mobility, they have a very low skill ceiling, the least versatility (with the parts a noob has) and they are getting crushed by all these diehard players who have much more mobility and options. My two buddies I got into this game both quit because they got stuck fighting hovers, omnis, and gerridas with special wheels. They couldnt do shit without reverse speed and/or strafing. Targem has forced brick meta into existence with their retarded way of buffing wheels; bricks are the most viable wheel builds but nobody seems to notice or care.

[Lauryzaz14]

And on top off what u guys say there is another issue which just pissed me off. U can not plan anything because events comes in surprises. I was planning to craft relics on this crafting event this year like they did previous year and nothing i was saving uranium for 4 months, i was producing legendaries needed to craft relics and nothing. Just fusion event. F*** **u devs and your stupid surpises. Im really loosing interest in this game

[Sethhaveron]

waiting half an hour to get into a battle , into anykind of battle

if there would be a option to reset the progress in Bloodrock i would rather be there instead of being idle in the qeue without end

[Dirty_Hamster]

@Sethhaveron

waiting half an hour to get into a battle , into anykind of battle

What PS? Which platform?

[Sethhaveron]

reguardles of ps