What are some of these “great majority of weapons” that have been wrecked?
And how have they been wrecked?
Are you running out of ammo during matches?
to name just a few…and as i said…i stopped playing after this crapdate…and explained my reasons for it in several posts on some other threads…
most player are still stuck on mgs. i’m trying to portray a bigger picture.
Removing hitscan from mgs.
i agree with removing hitscan from mgs, as that had the reason of increasing the skill needed to use them…and i’m a mgs player in general…was, a player…
I’m not going to look through the forum to find your other posts, when you could just answer questions here and have a normal conversation.
Are you saying you are running out of ammo with those two weapons? Or are you saying you have refused to play since the update? It’s not always easy to understand what you are trying to say.
And if you are running out of ammo, which ammo pack(s) are you using?
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you don’t get it m8…i couldn’t care less about the ammo part (though it was a mechanic that was there since day 1…and now it’s suddenly a problem?!?)…and i’m all for removing hitscan from mgs and such…that is NOT the problem…
the reason i’m done with XO, is the FACT that constant rebalancing WILL NOT solve the great majority of issues the game has had and this is just a “smoke and mirrors cure” which tells me that they will ALWAYS just fall back to rebalancing over and over again…instead of really trying to resolve the problems that the game has…not to mention that this solved nothing! it just “downgraded” the weapons people were bitching about…that’s all this update did…wait a bit and you’ll see that eventually.
instead of wasting time on an update that just screwed over a part of the items in favor of other items, what they COULD have done:
-double ammo for cannons and homing rockets (people were whining about low ammo count)
-increase other weapons (miller, GLs and such) ammo count by 50%-ish
-add more codrivers to balance weapons that benefit from them and weapons that don’t benefit from them as much (not all weapon types benefit equally from codrivers as you know)
-use RANGE to “nerf MGs” (as in short range = full dam ; long range = half dam ; over max range = no dam)
it would have been quicker (which would have given them more time to come up with more game modes, playing fields…etc) and less painfull for most builds (forcing ammo boxes), but instead they chose to waste time on constant rebalances…which will just spawn more need for rebalancing all the items affected by this update…untill they’ll just get stuck in the “rebalancing loop” (which killed firefall in the end, as i mentioned)…so i simply have no intention of wasting my time on a “rebalancing loop”…that’s all…
capishe…?
yeah…it just shifted the meta in another direction…a.k.a. …not solving anything…
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well, i did…and as i kept saying, it’s not the adding of bullets per se…much less was it about mgs and sgs (even though i’m mostly a mg player)…it was the overall imbalance that this crapdate did…
astreus…12 shots?!? how does the astreus compare to cannons…
adapters…they had no hitscan, much less a high dam output…etc.
junkbows and such…when was the last game you saw those weapons used…?
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i said that they wrecked a great majority of weapons for a non benefit is why i quit playing (still, didn’t uninstall the game 'cuz…here’s to hoping 'n stuff…)
i said i quit playing mostly because many underperforming weapons will now underperform even more, and the fact that they’ll (prolly) ruin the game with their “rebalance loop” mentality, among other things.
…which is why i said they SHOuld have used RANge for “balancing mgs and such weapons”, and that they COULD HAVE used codrivers to make an overall weapons’ balance…
i mean, if I can cook up 9 new/different codrivers, and they can’t even do 1, it does say a lot about THEM (at least to me )
…this better…?
also, no offence ment, but as many times as i said that ammo was not the reason, you keep on yapping ammo this, ammo that…so how is that a discussion if you’re not listening m8?
Dude, it’s my thread, and it’s specifically about ammo. If your meltdown has nothing to do with ammo, make your own thread.
And from what I can understand of your post, it sounds like you are insisting that many weapons have been completely wrecked, but also haven’t actually tried any of these ruined weapons since the update. So I’m not sure why you think you have anything useful to say on the subject.
Forgive me if that’s not what you are saying: your writing is not the easiest to understand.
rofl…you asked a question, and i answered it (if you don’t like my answer…not my problem )
it’s called using “experience and objective thinking” so i don’t need to use them to know they’re worse off now then what they were before…
why do y’all keep using ammo as “a shield to justify yourselves”?
you keep on going about sgs and mgs, when that part of the update didn’t affect them nearly as much as other weapons…even though the devs did say that that was in part their aim w this update…sooo…
Not trying to be a [insert nono word here], but…
If you quit playing then why are you still here? If you really hate the game THAT much, then maybe stop using the forums too?
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so what is even your argument? did you ever run out of ammo? the game seems to be balanced better than before, which is great but on the other hand i can no longer use hitscan to carry braindead teams so it became worse in that regard.
i also pretty much stopped playing completely, but for the reason that i just stated, and the update is a step in the right direction. now i think they should focus on giving us something to actually play
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I don’t think they actually have an argument, just a lot of feelings
Me too. More maps.
They added a lot of stuff over the last year and it has a lot of rough edges that need worked out, but at least it gives me the impression that this game isn’t on it’s way out. It looks like they had a lot planned for this game…and I’m glad it appears they are actually using planning as a development tool. Sometimes I wonder.
I hope next year is more stable than this last one, and that the updates will be more superficial and focused on the nuances of this game (minor balance tweaks), rather than reinventing entire game mechanics like they have been. That shit’s harsh, and upsetting. They should award us survivors with a proper holiday hug this Christmas (free stuff) for enduring it. I like their stickers, but the pain calls for more than a bandaid, IMO.
They made a lot of positive ground this year, but is was tumultuous, objectively. Even though I’m a die-hard Mad Max fan…
…that stuff’s pretty cool, IMO. I like my airship too, and along with some others, had been asking for that for a while, and now we have it…creepy spiders too. I very well remember asking for that too, in legs as wells as the drones.
They worked their asses off this year to bring us a lot of new features. Now, like you said, if they’d just give us something to do with all this stuff, improve balance, etc…
Copter raids; We needs it.
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to see how things will progress from now on…
never said that…you assume i hate the game…i don’t.
why? is it not allowed to use the forum if i stopped playing?
Taking a break isn’t always a bad idea. The way this game is, if you don’t like it, just wait a couple months and it’ll be different. That’s about the only thing that’s been consistent for a very long time.
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well, i did leave the game once before…a little after they introduced the brotherhood…the reason being i found the grind atrocious…
i returned a little before the bigass flying ship was removed from my backyard…and i really liked the fact that the grind was waay easier…
so i’m just gonna see how things go for now and watch from the sideline for a bit…also got the early access invite for PoE2 so i’ll be there for a bit…
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also gamemodes like 1v1, 4v4, etc. we already have CC but thats every other hour and its considered “competitive” unlike missions
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I have an upgraded expanded ammo pack and my Equilizers have run out of ammo a few times. I’ve pretty much switched over to playing rockets now.
no more Spray n Pray ? 
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I don’t hardly do that but, what’s wrong with spray and pray?
don’t bother m8…they keep repeating the same line like a broken record…just to justify themselves, to themselves…