I have 2 upgraded expanded ones fused for more ammo… i think I’m more than good on ammo… although i did see a gut with over 70 fused expanded ammo once…
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I’m starting to think the hysteria about the ammo change destroying the game may have been yet another case of players freaking out about nothing.
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Oh, it probably destroyed their game of machine gun spam. IDK. I never played that too much. I’m not sure it wouldn’t still work, though.
Do you think all those people who said they were going to quit over this really did?
Personally, I’m feeling a bit smug about having avoided the issue by backing away from guns entirely, since 2.0.
Once again the oasis turned out to be a mirage.
OK, so it didn’t destroy my game of machine gun spam. I ran M-37s tonight, no ammo pack, heaps of coolers, and shot bullet spam anywhere I saw a target. Never ran out of ammo. Rapid fire machine guns still do fine, seems like.
I have no idea what this update was all about. What was it supposed to do? Something? Energize cannons? Scare kids? Sell ammo packs? It’s subtle, whatever it is.
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well, i did…and as i kept saying, it’s not the adding of bullets per se…much less was it about mgs and sgs (even though i’m mostly a mg player)…it was the overall imbalance that this crapdate did…
astreus…12 shots?!? how does the astreus compare to cannons…
adapters…they had no hitscan, much less a high dam output…etc.
junkbows and such…when was the last game you saw those weapons used…?
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i said that they wrecked a great majority of weapons for a non benefit is why i quit playing (still, didn’t uninstall the game 'cuz…here’s to hoping 'n stuff…)
i said i quit playing mostly because many underperforming weapons will now underperform even more, and the fact that they’ll (prolly) ruin the game with their “rebalance loop” mentality, among other things.
…which is why i said they SHOuld have used RANge for “balancing mgs and such weapons”, and that they COULD HAVE used codrivers to make an overall weapons’ balance…
i mean, if I can cook up 9 new/different codrivers, and they can’t even do 1, it does say a lot about THEM (at least to me 
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classic case of the meta monkey having a panic attack over an alright change
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classic case of a brainless troll talking outta his ass…
are you referring to me?
yes i do…what…you can insult other people, but noone can insult you…?
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What are some of these “great majority of weapons” that have been wrecked?
And how have they been wrecked?
Are you running out of ammo during matches?
to name just a few…and as i said…i stopped playing after this crapdate…and explained my reasons for it in several posts on some other threads…
most player are still stuck on mgs. i’m trying to portray a bigger picture.
Removing hitscan from mgs.
i agree with removing hitscan from mgs, as that had the reason of increasing the skill needed to use them…and i’m a mgs player in general…was, a player…
I’m not going to look through the forum to find your other posts, when you could just answer questions here and have a normal conversation.
Are you saying you are running out of ammo with those two weapons? Or are you saying you have refused to play since the update? It’s not always easy to understand what you are trying to say.
And if you are running out of ammo, which ammo pack(s) are you using?
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you don’t get it m8…i couldn’t care less about the ammo part (though it was a mechanic that was there since day 1…and now it’s suddenly a problem?!?)…and i’m all for removing hitscan from mgs and such…that is NOT the problem…
the reason i’m done with XO, is the FACT that constant rebalancing WILL NOT solve the great majority of issues the game has had and this is just a “smoke and mirrors cure” which tells me that they will ALWAYS just fall back to rebalancing over and over again…instead of really trying to resolve the problems that the game has…not to mention that this solved nothing! it just “downgraded” the weapons people were bitching about…that’s all this update did…wait a bit and you’ll see that eventually.
instead of wasting time on an update that just screwed over a part of the items in favor of other items, what they COULD have done:
-double ammo for cannons and homing rockets (people were whining about low ammo count)
-increase other weapons (miller, GLs and such) ammo count by 50%-ish
-add more codrivers to balance weapons that benefit from them and weapons that don’t benefit from them as much (not all weapon types benefit equally from codrivers as you know)
-use RANGE to “nerf MGs” (as in short range = full dam ; long range = half dam ; over max range = no dam)
it would have been quicker (which would have given them more time to come up with more game modes, playing fields…etc) and less painfull for most builds (forcing ammo boxes), but instead they chose to waste time on constant rebalances…which will just spawn more need for rebalancing all the items affected by this update…untill they’ll just get stuck in the “rebalancing loop” (which killed firefall in the end, as i mentioned)…so i simply have no intention of wasting my time on a “rebalancing loop”…that’s all…
capishe…?
yeah…it just shifted the meta in another direction…a.k.a. …not solving anything…
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well, i did…and as i kept saying, it’s not the adding of bullets per se…much less was it about mgs and sgs (even though i’m mostly a mg player)…it was the overall imbalance that this crapdate did…
astreus…12 shots?!? how does the astreus compare to cannons…
adapters…they had no hitscan, much less a high dam output…etc.
junkbows and such…when was the last game you saw those weapons used…?
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i said that they wrecked a great majority of weapons for a non benefit is why i quit playing (still, didn’t uninstall the game 'cuz…here’s to hoping 'n stuff…)
i said i quit playing mostly because many underperforming weapons will now underperform even more, and the fact that they’ll (prolly) ruin the game with their “rebalance loop” mentality, among other things.
…which is why i said they SHOuld have used RANge for “balancing mgs and such weapons”, and that they COULD HAVE used codrivers to make an overall weapons’ balance…
i mean, if I can cook up 9 new/different codrivers, and they can’t even do 1, it does say a lot about THEM (at least to me )
…this better…?
also, no offence ment, but as many times as i said that ammo was not the reason, you keep on yapping ammo this, ammo that…so how is that a discussion if you’re not listening m8?
Dude, it’s my thread, and it’s specifically about ammo. If your meltdown has nothing to do with ammo, make your own thread.
And from what I can understand of your post, it sounds like you are insisting that many weapons have been completely wrecked, but also haven’t actually tried any of these ruined weapons since the update. So I’m not sure why you think you have anything useful to say on the subject.
Forgive me if that’s not what you are saying: your writing is not the easiest to understand.
rofl…you asked a question, and i answered it (if you don’t like my answer…not my problem )
it’s called using “experience and objective thinking” so i don’t need to use them to know they’re worse off now then what they were before…
why do y’all keep using ammo as “a shield to justify yourselves”?
you keep on going about sgs and mgs, when that part of the update didn’t affect them nearly as much as other weapons…even though the devs did say that that was in part their aim w this update…sooo…
Not trying to be a [insert nono word here], but…
If you quit playing then why are you still here? If you really hate the game THAT much, then maybe stop using the forums too?
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so what is even your argument? did you ever run out of ammo? the game seems to be balanced better than before, which is great but on the other hand i can no longer use hitscan to carry braindead teams so it became worse in that regard.
i also pretty much stopped playing completely, but for the reason that i just stated, and the update is a step in the right direction. now i think they should focus on giving us something to actually play
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