it is definitely an understatement i am finding out by the game
but in all fairness its not the fault of fatman but finwhale
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alright i played for like half an hour and hitscan aside im done with this circus of a game already. even if comical matchmaking was excused, almost every game is brick cancer exactly like we had months ago. this game will never improve
Yea that’s the reason why i compared them. You said i compare small mg against gigant autocannons and as you see you have similar sizes in same rareties.
K then we can stop discussing here i guess if you just ignore a whole gameplay feature while trying to lecture me about balancing.
Oh the game is on now XD prove me wrong with your equis! I would love to show what 8600 ps 3 therms heli will do with your equis while you try to get any hits in. I just played 10 matches again and got some ground units that tried to hit me with them. I just danced around in front of their noses and shredded them. Also i didnt encounter any mg helis.
But if you mean before the update? Hitscan weren’t weak thats right, if you can aim that is. But yes in combo with bricks they were unfair because you had all time of the world to build up the dmg.
That was the balancing factor on hitscan. Dps. Sure you could do 5k dmg on a target but you need 20 sec for it and if you really want to do harm you needed to focus the dmg on single parts like weapons or ammo packs ergo precise aiming.
At least we are on this point on the same page. Like i said, the main problem this game has is still bricks, no matter if in air or ground. The only way i had to really counter them was to pin point strip their weapons. Mostly i just let them self-destruct after i stripped them. Problem is without hitscan stripping a fast-moving target of its weapons is incredibly hard.
I really think they should generally lower the weight limit and make it so it’s a nice long curve so you get slower and slower the more you get near the limit. Do you get over the limit you shouldn’t even move anymore. Currently it feels like you can build to max tonnage drive full speed but then drop to a crawl 1 gram over the limit.
the thing is that almost nobody cares about or plays helis
i dont and wont play helis
yea good luck stripping omamori+finwhale+fatman lmfao that combo probably has like 10,000 hp combined and its at 10k ps. but i wont bother with the game anymore the devs have actual brain damage
mate, you are trying to have a logical discussion with someone who doesn’t understand (nor are they even trying to) the meaning of the words “logical discussion”… 
tried that…was a waste of time so i stopped…they are just trolling to feel better themselves, yk…
see…first it was mg bricks…now it’s fatman bricks…and these people “understand what balance means?!?”…hahahahahahahahahah
ofc they do…rofl
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Before the update there was alot of heli pilots. Nearly every match i played 4 or 5 at least. But yea many of them were meta brick drones.
Then whats the point of bringing you 4 equi story up to “prove” me wrong?
Yea these bricks suck i know but you know what the hard counter to them is? Heli. I shredded now many of the lower ps ones in the 9k range. They dont even shoot at me because they know they cant hit me.
Seriously since the update its easymode for me.
I feared i would have some problems with caucasus drones or ground brick build because i wouldnt be able to strip them of them of their weapons fast enough but… its currently super easy.
I even watched player shooting at me and just give up. Turning around and attacking ground targets while i shred them to pieces.
I dont understand whats happening.
Now i have a new fear. That after the haters are done with killing mgs they going after helis and bringing the devs to a point that they “balancing” Helis to death.
Yea yea i know i dont think you will care because you dont like helis i get it but balancing a game with nerfs and nerfs making more and more of the game useless isnt balancing. They should find a way to integrate existing stuff like hitscan as an own feature and balancing around that. Finding the real problems not only what they see in stats. Hitscan alone was not the problem, the combo of multiple things made it to one.
Nerfing Helis making them useless only because they are now too strong? Why not working on the problem and adding more ways to combat them?
Funny enough that they just destroyed the only weapontype that was a pain for helis because even ground builds could hit them with it. I mean yea there is also the AA but not enough players have them and its ps heavy.
And yea the devs arnt realy bright if they dont see that only nerfing stuff just makes the game dull.
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and THAT is called a “logical argument”…the rest of ya’all should learn that…
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to prove you wrong since you said mgs are dead
except helis dont play against bricks and are a different gamemode
No. That is not an example of a “logical argument.” It was clearly ad hominem. Merely an opinion.
I dont know why but sometime i want to discuss problems with people and hope they find some reason and common ground with me.
I mean the future of this game look bad if devs just nerf one after another of the so called op things into the ground instead of adding to the game and really balancing it.
They shouldnt just look at screaming players and stats that only shows mg player are overused and kill the most letz nerf them, no. They should play the game and look what realy the problem is. Why mgs were overused checking the combos players use to do it and then start balancing. Then maybe they would have find the brick meta and unrealistic heavy helis.
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they need a reason to introduce a brand new braindead meta every once in a while
You didnt prove anything… only that you dont fight against me.
Before you talk about balancing you should start to play the whole game not only a fraction of it
what does that mean
are you aware that youre playing the small unpopular fraction of the game? as opposed to actual pvp?
You said you prove me wrong “immediatly” by buying 4 equis… and doing stuff with it i guess… how exactly proved that anything?
First of all next step is pvp and i dont seem to have problems finding matches with players. 2nd i also play every other mode… k some eventmodes are just shit and clanwars isnt my cup of tea because clan people are pretty militant and want a little too much investment from me but i play 80% of what the game provides. So what do you play where no helis are involved?
then give me an example…of what a logical argument is…as so far you haven’t done that…
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you said ex-hitscan weapons are dead which i proved isnt true
games
…and you are still trying to reason with a troll?!?
isn’t this childishness answer enough for you mate?
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so… you prove me wrong by… say they exist?
ok looks like i used up all your conversation tokens.
Yea i think im done with him. Extracted every thought so not much comes out anymore.
proved by testing their effectiveness and concluding theyre not “dead”
you get a nonexistent answer to a pointless question
I dont know what that proves though. I tested them and concluded they are shit.
Now your comment stand against mine.
Proving would be beating my build or at least one build with 4 equis against the same build with 3 therms but that wont be happening right?
You wouldnt play against heli or anything that has good hardware in it.
Playing against you sounds so limiting.
But hey i could at least promise you that i dont use any brick builds.
K slowly you starting to sound like an bad ai.
Did it get pointless because you realized that you play even less of the game content then me?
But now i starting to realize that you probably just low iq trolling me so i still post on your “nonexisting answers”
K im done with our conversation until you post some solid points that are beneficial to the thread.