The absolute Poor State of balance in this game

Just for the record, you think you have a problem and act like it’s a problem for everyone. Nice assumption, but as you can see, not everyone has that problem. Then you also come up with the assumption that it is caused by players. There are indeed players who pay and that’s a good thing otherwise this game wouldn’t exist. And about the fact that you need top tier parts to do what you want, the following: there are plenty of players who do this without spending a penny. Nice and easy to blame everything and everyone because you can’t do what others can. XO may not be the game that will make you happy.

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I get what the problem is.
I get it all too well…

I’ve been playing for at least 5 years, and rarely play with hovers.

Yet… here I am… having a grand ole time in the game.

Then, I come to the forum to a relentless onslaught of people whining about hovers and “balance.”

You apparently don’t even know what you want to complain about since you’ve bounced around complaining about just about everything in the game since your 1st post. I’ve tried my best to read and understand what the issue is so I can learn and perhaps help. But, you don’t have one issue with the game that needs help… you have complained about just about everything in this thread, and then get pissy when people don’t know what the heck your actual issue is.

I only went a little ways through the thread picking out things you’ve complained about.

That last one… LOL

You boiled it down at one point to it being the Clan Wars/Uranium/Relic circle, but then immediately backtracked to this broader “it’s not balanced” mindstorm of yours.

Bless your little heart… I don’t think you have a clue what you’re mad about. You’re mad about all of it as far as I can tell.

Let me know how that works out for ya…

Meanwhile, I’ll be shooting people with my butt-dragging puppy.

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Cool, and they all bring to the exact same point which btw is still… let me check the title… OH RIGHT the poor balance in the game. Dam what a shame you forget this is still the topic in question…

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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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So you hate the whole game except… um… the interface.
Nice.

Imagine reading :roll_eyes:

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The whole thing is all about the newer player having the chance to do what they want to do while also standing a chance,

Having the point of tomorrow if a new player decided they wanted to play crossout, they could go for any build without feeling that 1) it takes forever to get, 2) It’s fun to play, and 3) It’s not just beaten because some idiot decided current state is “good balance”

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I’m saying game features, like the Battle Pass, are designed to push players into the higher brackets whether they like it or not (I don’t). I wasn’t saying you were suggesting seeking higher power-scores as some kind of solution to the problem.

I see it much the way you do. The higher you go, the more relevant the META becomes, and the fewer options players have creatively, or even strategically. You’re forced to use the META to survive more these days than in the past…maybe. IDK. It’s always been that way to some degree. The question is whether it’s just too much right now…at least I think that’s what the question is.

I thought he was implying the opposite of that, actually.

Sometimes. Sometimes the developers nerf your stuff into uselessness. That’s not his fault. It happens often too.

This above is kinda the situation. With normal PVP you can say that if you want batteries, wires, or scrap you farm at the ps you like to. Works okish (dependent on the items of the ps and if they are good or bad) but the point still is you can play whatever ps you want.

This is similar to raids but the raiders get scaled to team ps so again it’s the swings and roundabouts of going higher and facing harder ai.

But the main thing is down to how playing higher ps requires so much more of META bs. As said before the end game is when you really get the full list of items in the game to really make what you want (movement parts, cabins, weapons, you name it). But the problem here is when you get these options, here is where it becomes so poorly balanced with components just being way too good that playing that unique build to fulfill that want of the track build, the spider, the auger tank, you just cannot due to mobility.

Ideal state is having everything reason to each other to make playing whatever build feel engaging. And that’s what is lacking with the game, where it matters the most it’s in the worse state

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As I said before, there is no concept of balance in CW, and there never will be. By its nature, it’s no-holds barred, exploit everything you can, maximize every aspect of your build and team strategy.

So set that aside, and look at PVP, where the PS system allows for some kind of balance being achieved.
Is it perfect? No, but it’s better than it’s been in the past. Partly because there are just so many more items now than when I started playing.

Yes, the higher you go in PS, the more likely you are to encounter full hover squads, but that seems logical to me. Hovers could use a bit more of a nerf, but I’m seeing a lot of ground builds above 10kPS most matches I play, so I don’t think it needs to be a severe nerf.

Anyway, I have no interest in CW, and don’t own any relics, and that’s fine.
If I really wanted some relics, I could liquidate a lot of my inventory, but I’m in no rush. I’d rather have more stuff.

I think what might make the game less frustrating for players who want relics is if there were a PS restricted lower league CW, where newer players could start earning a trickle of uranium so that they could stand more of a chance when they’re ready to move up to the main CW.

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I do agree with the lower league uranium thing, but truthfully the system is so terrible that it pushes the player over the edge and just leaving the game (And not paying if that is the goal)

If they were never to actually fix the problem (Which would be royally stupid) then bringing some way to earn it WITHOUT playing max ps would be ideal (some PVP mode where requirements are level 50 prestige or something?) It just needs to remove this whole situation of forcing the player to getting so annoyed they leave

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CW needs to be completely reworked, but I doubt that will happen.
I feel like the fact that the CW players on the forum seem to hate the game the most says it all. Better to just avoid it and enjoy the rest of the game.

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I’ve been sincerely trying to figure out what the complaint is. :man_shrugging: I’m guessing you’re right.

Which counters - in my understanding anyway - what Doc suggested.

So, I’m assuming this is the main point of contention.

We may have gotten off on the wrong foot (I’m belligerent to complaining - obviously), but I do agree with this quote to a degree. I just don’t think that’s really avoidable. The devs and we the players can mitigate it to a degree, but only to a degree.

Doc wisely clarifies in that in regular PVP, it’s quite easy to mitigate, but all but impossible to mitigate in CW… which is why I quit playing CW shortly after trying it out. Not my brand of fun.

One of the things I love about the game is that you can spend a thousand dollars on the game and still make a build that won’t even move or fire. It’s up to us to figure out what parts to use and how to arrange them to make them competitive.

Not only that, but if you’re playing PVE, you need to build one way. If you’re playing PVP, you need to build another. CW is a whole different ball of wax as well. Heck, even Adventure has its own “meta.” They all do…

Consider this… imagine bringing a CW meta-build into Radiance. It’d suck the Southbound end of a Northbound moose.

We talk about the “meta,” but when we use that term, we’re generally referring to CW metas. That meta has been around for a very long time. It shifts and morphs from time to time depending on the nerf/buff cycle, but it’s always been there. We use “meta” in reference to CW because that’s where, as Doc points out, the higher you go, the more the meta matters.

If the Meta bothers you, and I know no one likes hearing this, don’ t play that high.

It really is completely avoidable.

This isn’t me saying the game is balanced. It is NOT balanced.

This isn’t me saying hovers aren’t breathtakingly stupidly overpowered. They are. It’s actually shocking how stupid that situation is.

This is me saying that you don’t have an option to play Goliaths at the top tier in this game. You can’t bring Lunar wheels in there. You can’t bring the bat… We can get angry about it and let it ruin the game (which obviously many have), or we can have fun where we can have fun.

For me, that’s in PVP, PVE, Adventure, and bringing absolutely silly builds into matches and managing to do well with them.

If you feel you have to play at CW or even high PS PVP levels in order to have fun, but the lack of balance in the game is a huge issue for you, this isn’t the game for you. I’m not saying that dismissively or even uncaringly. If that’s the situation you’re in, this game will make you miserable.

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…Or you can ask the Monkey. If you want to play the META up top, I think there are a couple players that can help you make that happen, whatever the current META is. Otherwise, PS 9-14K is probably going to be littered with Heap builds sporting tons of spaced armor…speaking of the Monkey…Let’s see what he has to say.

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Weak :slight_smile: J/K

But…. This is 4699PS and has over 1100hp

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There you go.

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My only real problem with what you posted is that it’s a photo taken of the screen. LOL :rofl:
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I can get the images from the Xbox app :slight_smile: but this is faster for me… so yeah :slight_smile:

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Same. I just take a pic of the screen instead of all the menus.

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stop coping no one cares lower hover speed to 75 again game fixed spiders are so broken right now same with breaker cars

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