That’s the entire thing I said, smooth editing there bub
No editing bud.
You still are not talking about the same thing.
Meta the word and META the acronym are two different things.
I covered what the word actually means and what it means to most people in games be it video games or card games
So stop with this dismissive snobby attitude as your meaning is completely different than others get over it, please
Is multiple personality disorder happening with you?
Where the we you’re talking about it’s only you griping about how the meaning of a word means something to you so others opinions of it doesn’t matter
You need not to get so mad and harass people
Ya all look like my 70yo parents fighting for two hours over who forgot to buy milk. You sure you don’t wanna sip water instead?
Okay get back on topic and be more reasonable
The thing is, most games don’t have something equivalent to the PS system in Crossout, so in most cases Monkey’s definition is obviously the right one.
But because of the PS system, the term gets used in other ways here.
The Magic comparison is a good one, and I’m a bit confused why the parallel doesn’t easily apply here.
Yes, there is nothing stopping anyone from playing high PS, so I get why someone might say META only applies to builds at the top of the PS scale.
But (and this is a big “but”), that 18000 PS monster isn’t ever going to go up against a 6000 PS car, so it doesn’t make sense to say the 18 000 PS car is more “effective”.
If we’re talking about PVP, “effective” and “available” refer to the situations that would actually occur in game. An 18 000 PS car won’t be effective or available at 6000 PS, and vice versa.
Regardless of whether you agree with me or not, this is not a subject anyone should be getting upset about. Language is alive and always changing, and adapts to new situations all the time.
Edit: to simplify what I’m trying to say, keeping your PS under control is one of the most vital “tactics” in PVP to master. That aspect of the game is huge (outside of high PS and CW), so it doesn’t make sense to ignore that aspect when taking about the META.
I do agree with what your saying poony.
But the quote above is not 100% always true - that that is why i concerned PvP one format.
I know it is not the normally thing, but I was in a game the other day that had 7k, 12k, and I was on a 14k.
What I will assume is I was in the 12k-14k bracket and someone pulled in a 7k in a 4 man team.
So yes, in fact, we all “can” play in the same game. People just choose not to.
This conversation reminds me of the meltdowns people used to have on music message boards about genre.
“That’s not real house music”
“Yes it is, but it’s just NYC tribal house, and not Chicago deep house”
“You guys are both wrong: it’s all just underground dance music”
Since everyone here knows exactly what we mean when we say “low PS META”, then it’s a thing. Language isn’t ruled by the original uses, but instead it’s determine by how it is used and understood.
If there were any real confusion about what low PS META means, that would be a different situation, but there isn’t.
If language communicates what is intended, then it works, even if that mean the original definition has been bent.
If someone says “Low PS META” then I would agree everyone understands what that means … well, everyone except the guy that still thinks we are talking about the word meta.
But that is different then using the word “META” on its own.
Lol yeah, so true
But once they have that conversation and get on the same page then everything should flow well from there.
Crossout is a slightly different monster then most games, 90% of the other games the META is cut and dry. No confusion, top of the top. I understand why we have grey area in Crossout.
This is also the issue we have when people make complaint threads.
They really need to start every post with the PS they play at, the platform they play on and include a picture of their build. Because 99% of the time if they don’t we are all talking about something different. And in some cases everyone is right.
Reminds me of the description of Speechcraft on TES: Oblivion’s loading screens:
The art of Speechcraft is saying what you mean in such a way that gets the other person to do what you want them to do.
Kinda butchering it, but thats the gist of it. Language and definitions are different beasts. What you make of the conversation is what it becomes. If we talk about low PS Most Effective Tactic Available, it becomes its own thing. It is a conversation because its being talked about as one.
Once more, dead horse, Most Effective Tactic Available is anywhere and everywhere. Most Effective Build in the Game is obviously only a top PS build. And for a 1v1, its a double bubble wheeled Punisher build. xD It can beat anything in the entire game. Hovers, dogs, you name it.
Most Effective Tactics Available: What is your goal? My goal is to get kills and kill assists. Most Effective Tactics Available for my goal would be a 4000 PS Drone Boat. I maybe could carry the players running 4000 PS score or maybe not, but I would get in on many kills and kill assists. I just will not play Drones that low power score because it is too easy, it is so sickening how the enemy cannot or will not handle Drones or Turrets and they just crumple like paper mâché cars.
Maybe your goal is to farm Batteries and you need to be 5000 PS and you go with a Goblin Growl.
What goal would I have in mind to play 14,000 PS? What Resource would I farm to need that high PS?
Uranium, right? Only those seeking Uranium would benefit from chasing the META at 14,000 PS.
Your goal determines your META, not your Power Score. Your Power Score may be determined by your goal or just how you feel that moment.
Most Goals can be met by a 5000 PS vehicle. So, the META for 5000 PS is the favorable META.
Your goal determines your tactics, thus determining your META.
100% this… Lord Tutor is absolutely correct in my humble yet undeniably correct opinion.
Like I said earlier & elsewhere… right now, my goal is to get as much variety of parts as possible in the game. That seems to be accomplished by leveling up all the factions, completing all the BP levels I can, gaining all the resources I can, and doing as many challenges I can.
I’m pretty sure the build that is META for what I’m doing is closer to the META most players actually need to accomplish their goals.
So, a high PS hover box is NOT going to be META for most folks. That’s the META, as far as I can tell, for really angry & unhappy try-hards who truly seem to hate the game (not talking about RoughMonkey, just the general impression I get from here, Discord, Reddit, FB, & in-game). Their goal seems to be to have the build that can beat all other builds - regardless of powerscore.
THAT Meta isn’t going to get you much progress in the game as defined above. In a half hour of play, you might get 3 matches in. That’s not much in resources compared to lower PS play. But, you know… you get the adrenaline rush of playing against the heaviest builds in the game & playing against players who have probably been in the game the longest or against whales.
Drone? Not sinus 4k?
Right, just spray and pray and hit all 8 enemies and hope they die by the end. I really hate how good I am at machineguns, and they require more energy for radiators and Turrets are very light so you can carry more HP and run away and ram enemy and stay alive. Machineguns seem to take the time to strip the enemy and hopefully move on, but sometimes you get stuck killing the enemy and only get in on 3 kills for a good score but not like 7/8 like Turrets for a low score.
Nice jab I was right so go away, leave me be
You claimed meta isn’t a thing in low ps but I said it is, you claim it didn’t fit your definition and I showed it fits the definition literally and the definition how most people who used it.
This coming from someone who privately messages people telling them to calm down and reign themselves in
That word is human. I am only human. You are only human. We are only human. We are made from dirt, and to dirt we shall return.
Sinus does not work that way. I mean, you can use it in “spray and pray” style but it wouldn’t be effective. It’s best to use tap fire, to keep the damage bonus.
Drones attack cabin only…
You don’t have to. You either strip their weapons or their movement parts.